A taster of CRIME SCENE, our new podcast – Episode 1: Guns of London

This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

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News, Society & Culture, Politics

4.8 • 1.6K Ratings

🗓️ 2 May 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

As a follower of This Is Not A Drill, we thought you might like to try our brand new, not-entirely-dissimilar podcast CRIME SCENE. Every week ex-Met Police Commissioner Bernard Hogan-Howe and former Mirror editor Alison Phillips lift the lid on how criminal investigations really work. In our debut episode: The horrific shooting of an innocent nine-year-old girl in Dalston in 2024 laid bare bitter rivalries between London’s armed gangs. Are police they fighting a losing battle against guns in the Capital? Want to know more? Hear the full episode here and subscribe for new episodes every Thursday. Presented by Bernard Hogan-Howe and Alison Phillips. Audio production by Tom Taylor. Music by Simon Williams. Produced by Managing Editor Jacob Jarvis and Group Editor Andrew Harrison. Executive Producer: Martin Bojtos. Thanks to Helen Purvis at Knight Ayton Management. CRIME SCENE is a Podmasters Production www.podmasters.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello, it's Andrew Harrison here with a taster of an exciting new show from the House of Podmasters.
0:05.3	It's called Crime Scene, and it looks behind the headlines to find out the truth about true crime.
0:11.7	Here's the first few minutes of the first edition.
0:14.3	If you like it, you can hear the whole thing right now.
0:17.3	Just follow the link in the show notes.
0:21.3	Hello and welcome to the very first edition of Crime Scene, the new podcast where we go
0:28.3	behind the police tape to look inside the cases that make the headlines.
0:33.2	Hear how the police really run investigations and discover the truth behind true crime.
0:40.3	I'm Alison Phillips, a journalist and former editor of The Mirror.
0:43.3	And I'm Bernard Hogan, howe, previously commissioner of the Metropolitan Police and
0:48.3	Chief Constable of Merseyside, and spent a career investigating some very awful crimes and dealing with many of the consequences.
0:57.7	In our first edition, we're asking, is London's gun crime problem getting out of control?
1:04.2	Sometimes it feels like London produces a gun crime story every day, whether it's a robbery,
1:09.5	a revenge attack or a more sophisticated, organized crime.
1:14.1	And then occasionally, a truly shocking story touches everyone, like the drive-by shooting
1:20.0	in Dalston, East London in May of last year, in which a nine-year-old girl who was eating
1:25.9	with her parents in a cafe was shot in the head
1:29.3	and left with life-changing injuries.
1:32.7	This was a horrendous case and it also lifted the lid on gang rivalries that were spiraling
1:38.3	out of control into armed violence.
1:41.6	Where are these weapons coming from?
1:43.5	Who is using them? And are the police fighting a losing
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