Yuributsa lives in Kiev and he's helping the war effort, but not from the front lines.

He wears like what looks to me like, I mean if it's not a custom suit, it's a well-fitted

suit and like, you know, high quality shirt, you know, he looks like a banker.

He'd be like in the city in London or on Wall Street in New York, like he would not look

at a place at all.

Except for the smile, he's got a really big smile.

Butsa works at Ukraine's finance ministry.

People in the bond market, they just call him Yuri, you know, like everybody, if you

mention Yuri, there are other Yuri's, but we all know which Yuri they're talking about.

They're talking about Yuri, butsa.

That's our colleague Matt Wurs.

He covers the bond market.

And a few weeks ago, Matt met up with Butsa in New York.

Well, I wish we had two hours like that, so much I want to ask you.

So just so you know, like obviously I know a little bit about your region.

I have family from Ukraine.

I would say it was mid September.

He had been on like a really like a whirlwind tour.

He had just come off of three days in London back to back meetings.

Like literally you would do like nine meetings in a day back to back, like no lunch, no coffee

break.

Butsa was in back to back meetings to try to help Ukraine with one of its many challenges,

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