I'm Tom Morello and you're listening to the Ralph Nader Radio Hour.

Welcome to the Ralph Nader Radio Hour. My name is Steve Scrovan along with my co-host David Feldman.

Hello there David. Hello Steve and the man of the hour Ralph Nader. Hello Ralph.

Hello everybody. Does anyone actually want to go to war over Ukraine right now?

The United States doesn't. We have no real national interest in Ukraine we're dying for.

Russia doesn't. Economic sanctions and military mobilization could cripple them.

Europe doesn't. Many European countries have depended on Russian gas.

Ukraine certainly doesn't. They would undoubtedly suffer the most casualties and highest economic

costs. So why is Putin sending troops to Russia's border with Ukraine? Why is Biden moving troops

into Europe under NATO and threatening to impose sanctions on Russia? Our guest today will be

Katrina Van Denhovel, publisher and editorial director of the nation magazine,

and now columnist for the Washington Post. In three of her recent columns,

what a sensible Ukraine policy would look like, stop the stumble toward war with Russia,

and the exit from the Ukraine crisis that's hiding in plain sight, she lays out the facts of our

current Ukraine crisis and makes a case for peace. And there's a troubling new trend among

American celebrity billionaires and corporate lobbyists, nuclear power. It's back.

Elon Musk and Jack Dorsey are tweeting about it. Bill Gates and Warren Buffett are investing in it.

What is wrong with these people? Despite a nuclear facility's toxic byproducts,

the abundance of cheaper and cleaner alternative energy sources. And of course the risk of

catastrophic meltdown, nuclear advocates are trying to rebrand old, unsafe, ineffective,

nuclear tech is a clever alternative energy source. What's behind this latest nuclear renaissance?

Our second guest today will be friend of the show Peter Bradford. He once served on the US

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