And good evening. Thanks for joining us. I'm Anderson Cooper and for Chris Cuomo.

President Trump today seemed to be distancing himself from some key actors in the Ukraine

controversy. The latest, the former ambassador to Ukraine, who testified today of a State

Department being, quote, attacked and hollowed out, unquote, by politics, massed as diplomacy.

The president today said he did not know this three-time ambassador who's spent 33 years

in the foreign service.

Well, she may be a wonderful woman. I don't know her, but she may be very much a wonderful

woman. If you remember the phone call I had with the president, the new president, he didn't

speak favorably, but I just don't know her. She may be a wonderful woman.

So just, you know, fax matter, that's actually not true what he just said. It wasn't the

president of Ukraine who was saying negative things about the ambassador. It was actually

President Trump speaking to the president of Ukraine, speaking unfavorably of her on

that now infamous July phone call, which would indicate he does know her or of her.

Today in her testimony, Marie Yvonnevich said that the president appeared, quote, very

familiar with her in her work in Ukraine. She testified that the deputy secretary of

State, who recalled her earlier this year, said the president, quote, lost confidence

in me, end quote. She also said this, quote, he added that there had been a concerted

campaign against me and that the department had been under pressure from the president

to remove me since the summer of 2018. More than today's testimony, I want to bring

in CNN, Sondland, Surferati on Capitol Hill. So after almost 10 hours of testimony, what

are you learning about the ambassador's deposition, particularly what she told the committee about

Rudy Giuliani? Again, this is behind closed doors. So information is hard to get.

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