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#UKRAINE. BEWARE CEASEFIRE. JOHN BOLTON, NATIONAL REVIEW

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🗓️ 25 February 2025

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#UKRAINE. BEWARE CEASEFIRE. JOHN BOLTON, NATIONAL REVIEW

1918 UKRAINE

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0:00.0

I'm John Batchel with John Bolton, former ambassador to the United Nations, former National

0:08.6

Security Advisor writing in the Telegraph, that's London reporting, about the word ceasefire

0:13.9

and what needs to be watched very carefully when you plunge yourself into committing to a ceasefire.

0:20.2

Seastfire plus negotiations, ceasefire plus negotiations and peacekeepers.

0:24.2

We've heard these words for years, John.

0:26.7

They're usually associated with blue helmets.

0:28.7

My experience with blue helmets in the Middle East is that when the blue helmets come in,

0:33.7

the enemy takes advantage.

0:35.4

Is that the same for the word ceasefire?

0:38.8

Well, I think it's a risk for Ukraine. And, you know, we are all talking about these negotiations that are about to start. And there's a kind of implicit premise in what everybody's saying that when negotiations are about to start, there will be a ceasefire on

0:56.7

the battlefield, presumably along the existing front lines. That presumption, I think, is misguided

1:03.8

in the case of Ukraine and potentially dangerous for the Ukrainians and therefore for us.

1:10.6

And the reason for that is that with the circumstances here of an unprovoked Russian

1:16.3

aggression and invasion of Ukraine first in 2014 and then expanded in 2022, if you have a ceasefire

1:25.7

and negotiations turn out to be protracted, that ceasefire line could become a new Ukrainian-Russian border.

1:35.6

And that would in effect give Putin really doubling the amount of Ukrainian territory that would be under Russian control.

1:43.1

It could become a new de facto border that gets very hard to change over time.

1:49.6

Now, it's certainly, while it's commonplace to have a ceasefire while negotiations start,

1:55.0

it's not invariably what happens during the World War II and the Chinese Civil War.

2:04.5

The Chinese communist held negotiations with Shanghai Shek and the real government of China under a doctrine they call fight, fight,

2:10.5

fight, talk, talk, prove very successful for the Chinese communist, really disadvantageous in the extreme for Chiang Kai

2:19.7

Shek. So it's not a certainty one way or the other what's going to be in somebody's

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