Ukraine and the Crisis of US Foreign Policy (Robert Wright & Thomas Friedman)

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🗓️ 8 February 2022

⏱️ 54 minutes

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How Bob and Tom wound up talking about the Russia-Ukraine crisis ... Tom says NATO should be willing to close its door to Ukrain ... The never ending “age of midgets” in US foreign policy making ... Tilting international relations in a positive direction ... Is Biden’s “democracy versus autocracy” framework counterproductive? ... Analyzing the nature of journalistic objectivity – and how to achieve it ... Bob and Tom agree we need non-zero thinking to solve global problems ...

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0:00.0	You're listening to a podcast from Blogging Heads TV.
0:09.2	Hi, Tom.
0:10.7	Hey, Bob.
0:11.1	How are you?
0:12.0	Can't complain.
0:12.9	How are you doing?
0:14.1	Terrific.
0:16.4	Enjoying the weather down here in D.C.
0:18.1	And I have my new grandson.
0:20.1	Congratulations on the grandson. Thank you. As the cliche goes, all of the fun, none of the
0:25.1	responsibility. Absolutely. Let me explain how we came to talk. I think you probably need
0:32.6	no introduction for almost all of our audience. You're Thomas Friedman. I called you in a recent piece of mind in my non-zero newsletter,
0:40.8	the dean of American foreign policy columnist.
0:43.9	I think that's fair.
0:44.7	You've written a lot of books.
0:45.8	Very well known.
0:47.7	And that piece is the way we came to talk, to have this conversation.
0:57.1	I was writing about Ukraine and how I thought America was partly responsible for getting us into this mess, American foreign policy.
1:05.7	And in fact, a certain amount of my argument I think you agree with because it was about the folly of NATO expansion,
1:11.0	and you were arguing against NATO expansion back in the 1990s.
1:15.9	But in the course of my piece, I was critical of something you had written recently.
1:20.9	Because we've known each other a while, I sent you an email, a heads up, and said,
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