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🗓️ 22 February 2022
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Yesterday, Vladimir Putin announced that he was recognizing the Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR) and Luhansk People’s Republic (LNR) as independent states. During his speech, Putin said "Ukraine has never had its own authentic statehood" and demanded that "those who captured and are holding on to power in Kyiv" immediately "cease military action."
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1:04.8 | I am your host, Isaac Saul, and on today's episode, we are going to be talking about Russia and Ukraine. |
1:10.3 | Again, I know we have covered |
1:11.9 | this a lot recently, but there's a lot going on and there were some major developments in the last |
1:17.1 | 48 hours that I thought was necessary for us to follow up. Before we jump in, though, I do |
1:23.9 | want to issue a correction and a clarification of sorts. I think we're going to count this as two |
1:29.2 | corrections. On Thursday, in the number section, I wrote that Russia expelled John Sullivan, the |
1:35.0 | deputy U.S. ambassador to Russia. In fact, Russia had expelled Bart Gorman, who is the number two-ranked |
1:41.1 | diplomat in Russia and the actual deputy U.S. ambassador. |
1:44.7 | Sullivan is the ambassador, the number one ranked envoy in Russia, and he remains in Moscow. |
1:50.3 | I also wanted to follow up on a sentence in the podcast on Thursday. |
1:54.4 | We referred to NATO as a post-Soviet alliance, which is both true and also an odd and kind of misleading descriptor, |
2:01.7 | NATO was formed after World War II in 1949, not after the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991. |
2:08.6 | So it was specifically designed to rebut Soviet aggression and lasted through the collapse of the |
2:13.8 | Soviet Union into the present day. So this is kind of an odd one because it's not |
2:17.8 | totally factually incorrect in the sense that NATO is post-Soviet. It exists now and the Soviet |
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