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The News Agents

Ukraine: a war without end?

The News Agents

Global

Politics, Government, Daily News, News

4.15.4K Ratings

🗓️ 12 May 2023

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

It's Eurovision weekend. But the biggest party in Europe will not take place in Ukraine -last year’s victor - but in Liverpool.

This episode is not about Eurovision, but instead asking where we are with the Ukraine war, over 400 days since its start. With more than 9000 Ukrainian civilians dead, are we any closer to the conflict’s end? We take you in depth and discover how everything hinges on the Ukrainian counter offensive, now finally coming.

And in our latest My Political Make Up interview we talk to Labour MP and Shadow Minister for Women, Jess Phillips.

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0:00.0

The Newsagents podcast is brought to you by HSBC UK, opening up a world of opportunity.

0:09.1

This is a global player original podcast.

0:12.9

The winner of the Eurovision Song Contest 2022 is Ukraine!

0:21.6

That was the sound of Ukraine, storming to victory in Eurovision 2022 in Turin.

0:29.6

At the time, the hope held by President Zelensky down was that when it was time for the competition to be held again that it could be held in a

0:38.6

Ukrainian city in a victorious Kiev perhaps but a year on it is not on the banks of the

0:44.9

Denepro but on the Mersey in Liverpool and though it is being held for them with them the echoes

0:51.7

of the war are perhaps a little bit fainter than we might have anticipated

0:55.4

a year ago with the European public, perhaps a bit more weary of the grind of a war without

1:01.8

apparent end. So today's episode isn't about Eurovision. It's about where we are with that war,

1:07.9

now 442 days old. Who, if anyone, is winning 442 days on? What, if anything,

1:17.8

might bring its end? It's Lewis here. Welcome to the newsagents.

1:25.1

The newsagents. Now, later on, we'll be bringing you the latest in our My Political Makeup series,

1:31.1

extended interviews with interesting politicians about what drives them in politics.

1:35.6

But first, back to Ukraine.

1:37.6

In Liverpool, it is inevitably this Eurovision, a peculiar event,

1:42.1

one that's never happened before,

1:43.6

that a city should have

1:45.0

to host in another's stead because of an ongoing conflict. A delicate balance between

1:51.3

celebrating the country it ought to have been in and the place that it is. We caught up with

1:57.3

Scott Bryan, TV critic and journalist who is covering this great song contest,

2:01.3

Jambery. It's a situation that Liverpool has really, really embraced. I was speaking to some

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