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The UK in a Changing Europe Podcast

UKICE Lunch Hour: By-elections special

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🗓️ 28 July 2023

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

This special episode of UKICE (I Tell) features a recording of our latest UKICE Lunch Hour, where polling experts discussed the results of the July by-elections. The panel including Professor Anand Menon, Professor Rob Ford, Professor Paula Surridge and Sophie Stowers considered what the results meant and, more specifically, their implications as we approach the next general election.

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0:00.0

Without further, our panel is Sophie Stowers, our own researcher here at UK and Changing Europe, Paula Surridge, Deputy Director, UK and Changing Europe and University of Bristol, and Rob Ford, Senior Fellow from UK and Changing Europe and University of Manchester.

0:21.7

So I'm going to get cracking quickly, Sophie, before something else goes wrong and just say, what for you was the key

0:25.9

takeaway of the elections last week? I'm going to say something that I've never said before.

0:31.1

I think for me, it was probably sort of unsurprising the results where I think a lot of what happened

0:37.3

was just confirming sort of trends that we've seen in the national data and sort of think that meant a lot of people's predictions are quite spot on.

0:44.4

I think the big thing to take away from it is that even though Labour is doing clearly very well, overturning a massive majority in Selby, if you look at the swing in Uxbridge, you know, it was a very close result,

0:54.3

but the swing wasn't huge.

0:55.8

It was about 7% and I think he would have been hoping for more than that.

0:58.8

So I think it just shows that even though, you know, Labor can be quite confident,

1:02.8

they've still got to be cautious and there is still work to do in seats like Uxbridge

1:06.6

that are probably on the periphery of Labour's target list seats, but, you know, they still

1:11.7

want to make them.

1:12.6

Brilliant.

1:13.6

Thank you.

1:14.6

Paula.

1:15.6

So I think for me, I've got a little bit of an obsession with looking at what the smaller

1:20.6

parties were doing.

1:21.6

And I think the, again, underperformance of the smaller parties to the right of the Conservatives

1:26.6

was really noticeable in these.

1:28.3

In a seat like Selby, if Reform UK were doing as well as National Polls suggest taking, you know, 10, 15% of 2019 Conservative votes,

1:39.3

they should be doing much, much better in a seat like Selby at a by-election and they're not. And that suggested to me

1:45.2

there's not really a credible threat to the Conservatives on their right-hand flank. Now, you could

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