You've got some of the most high profile prisoners in the world there.

We had the Yorkshire River, Ian Huntley, we had the Moors murderer, we had Steve Reeveson,

the Roker, who a lot of people don't see him, I know, murdered four people.

There's like 400, maybe, 450 prisoners on the VP side of Franklin, who, you know, only a handful of getting the media.

All of them have done some of the most horrific things you could possibly imagine.

I remember we walked on the all of them have done some of the most horrific things you could possibly imagine.

I remember we walked on the wing and the S-O at the time was like, right, don't go on the threes because it's really bad up there at the minute, so just sort of leave them beat.

We'll go up there, we'll all go up there together when it's bang up.

On the ones, you've got a few you need to watch out for.

He's just punched um

ricky or whatever i know like all right no bother where's the rest of the staff is like right uh misses misses upstairs in the office good luck lads i remember i took a prisoner at a hospital

who'd murdered his next door neighbor, put her body in

the freezer, essentially. And there's no way to say it without getting too graphic. But he was,

while helping her family search for her, he was getting her body out at the freezer, warming her

up with barbecue tongs that he was heating on his oven and then having his way with her dead body.

And that one on three was horrendous. I remember turning up and there was just prisoners and staff fighting everywhere.

And I looked up to the three's landing the top floor and there was a prisoner stood there with proper stabber in one hand and like an extension cable or something in the other.

I remember him like sort of swinging, like going to swing with a knife in his hand and I hit him in the leg with the baton.

He recently had surgery and he was like forcibly going to the toilet in his underway

so he could get the nurses to change him.

No.

Yeah.

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