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🗓️ 6 August 2025
⏱️ 51 minutes
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0:00.0 | Welcome to the John Gorn show. |
0:02.4 | It's another one of my set pieces. |
0:04.5 | John Gant meets interesting people, or people who interest me at least. |
0:08.9 | And today it's somebody you're quite familiar, I think, with. |
0:12.3 | I've had him on my shows on all of the stations I've worked on. |
0:16.1 | He's a terrorism and security expert. |
0:18.4 | His name is Mike Yardley, and I'm delighted to say he joins me now. Hello, Mike. Hi, John. Well, an awful lot of life has flown under the bridge since we last spoke. So it's great to talk to you, really good. I hope this will go to some interesting places. Yeah, a lot of life and nearly a bit of death as well. Right, let's crack on straight |
0:37.9 | away. Are we safer now? You're an international terror and security expert. Are we safer |
0:43.3 | now than 7-7 20 years ago? Tell me your views. Yeah, I think the answer's complex. And you |
0:51.1 | look back, I was going through some of my own articles the other day day and I noticed I was writing op-eds in the Times after the Brighton bomb which is 84. |
1:01.0 | Yeah. And then we had this, you know, we went through the sort of era of big terrorism. Yeah. And that's quite interesting of itself and we could come back to that. But then, you know, 20 year anniversary of the London bombings, are we safer now? |
1:16.3 | Well, I think the intelligence is better developed. |
1:19.2 | That's certainly true. |
1:20.3 | I think we've got to align in to a lot of these groups and what they're thinking. |
1:25.4 | They're extremely vulnerable to our developed systems, |
1:30.3 | which is good news. But of course, there's new problems as well. There was also a very curious |
1:35.7 | lack of terrorism during the COVID crisis during lockdown. Perhaps things were happening, |
1:41.9 | but we didn't hear of them much. But you have to ask yourself now, how secure can we be when we've got tens of thousands of people coming through on small boats? |
1:53.6 | Many of them of military age. |
1:55.5 | I mean, if you were one of our enemies, our strategic enemies, you'd been mad not to introduce your assets, your agents, |
2:03.3 | your special forces type people who would only be activated in the event of war. They must |
2:08.7 | have done that. They'd be foolish not to. Let me ask you that direct question then. Do you believe |
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