And the JF Martel, Gordon, welcome to the show.

So happy to be here Gordon, thanks for having me.

Yeah, yeah, very much looking forward to this,

but what I've been trialing at the moment,

and I'll be honest, it's been hit and miss,

is asking ChatGPT to put a bio together for my guest.

Now I've got Mark Pluckin right,

and I've got Dougalhind quite wrong.

So again, I'm gonna read what the robots say your life story is.

And we'll go from there.

We'll correct it where possible.

And so it started to, I think I'm not the only person doing this

because one of the changes is as follows.

As of my knowledge cutoff date of September 2021, J.F. Martel is a Canadian writer filmmaker

and cultural theorist known for his explorations of art, culture, and consciousness.

I like the subjects of that, which is in the last couple of years you might have joined the

circus or they. As of 2021, this is what he was up to.

However, there is limited information available

on his personal life, bit of a burn,

making it difficult to provide a comprehensive biography.

Here's a brief overview of his work and accomplishments.

J.F. Martel has authored several books, including Reclaiming Art in the Age of Artifice, which serves as a manifesto for the deep experience of art. I quite like that.

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