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UFOs: Conspiracy Theories, Secrets & Mysteries

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🗓️ 27 November 2023

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

We talk with journalist Garrett Graff about his new book, UFO: The Inside Story of the U.S. Government's Search of Alien Life Here – and Out There. It's about reported sightings, how they've been investigated by the military, what secrets the military keeps and why, and the scientific search for extraterrestrial intelligence. He says that the government is absolutely covering up information about what's in the skies, but not for the reasons you may think.

Later, John Powers reviews the new romantic comedy, Fallen Leaves.

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0:25.2

This is fresh air. I'm Terry Gross. As a journalist and historian who has covered the

0:30.1

White House and issues related to national intelligence, my guest Garrett Graf thinks that some

0:35.7

of the conspiracies about the so-called deep state have their roots in conspiracy theories about

0:40.8

UFOs. His new book, which begins in the 1940s. theories about

0:45.0

the UFOs, the history of reported UFOs,

0:48.0

how the government investigates those sightings,

0:51.0

what the military knows and what it keeps secret, and how

0:54.7

UFO conspiracy theories start and spread. The book is also about how scientists and

1:00.3

astronomers are searching for signs of extraterrestrial intelligence.

1:05.5

What pop culture has had to say about UFOs and extraterrestrial life is also covered.

1:11.4

The title of his book is

1:12.8

UFO, the inside story of the US government's search for alien life

1:17.6

here and out there. Graf is the author of previous books about the history of the FBI, the Cold War plans to protect government leaders in case the US is attacked with a nuclear weapon, and an oral history of 9-11.

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His book Watergate was a Pulitzer Prize finalist in history.

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Graf is the former editor of Political magazine and a contributor to Wired.

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Garrett Graf, welcome back to fresh air.

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It's a pleasure to be back with you, thank you.

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