From the heart of Cascadia, and the edge of the world, you from that presence, Nitraft,

Jim Perry.

Good evening. I'm Jim Perry, and you are listening to another edition of Nightdrift,

presented by Ufmed. Broadcasting tonight from The Mother Ship, the studio of 1150 AM KKNW in Seattle,

of course, we are also streaming Worldwide at Nightdrift.com. And maybe soon we'll be on Instagram,

live, or TikTok or something, because I was just on both those platforms, just like some carnival

Barker, letting people know that we are about to go live. So thank you for listening, whether

it's terrestrial or digitally, really appreciate it. Tonight we're going to have a great show we

chat with Elaine Hathaway on tarot and magic. She considers herself a conduit, someone who can

reconnect people to their own awareness of possibility and magic. She comes to us highly

recommended. It should be a really interesting chat as I have. I have so much to learn about practices

like these, even though I've experienced them, I've had readings done, I've done readings in some

degree, whether it's tarot or it's an Oracle deck. So I do have this experience, but there's so

much that I want to ask her about this. That's tonight. And you know, earlier this week,

wow, it's been a great week. I've spent most of the week up here in Seattle. A few days ago,

I was with the folks at Limital Earth. You may have seen us on Instagram live or TikTok or on

their Patreon. They did this thing on Wednesday nights, inspired by John Keel. You know, there was

this idea based on statistical reports and data generated in the 50s and 60s that Wednesday nights

at around 10 p.m. were the time to go outside and look for UFOs. So they started this really fun

thing where they just gather a bunch of people online, sometimes together, and they go and just

watch the skies. Now, if that wasn't enough for them, they've started doing divination. They started

to do the net. The Estus method, if you're familiar with that, I'm sure listeners are.

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