You're listening to the Michael Sherman Show. The Michael Sherber Show I want to tell you about our upcoming event, December 1st, 2nd and 3rd, right here in

Santa Barbara.

Saturday, we're going to have podcast recordings. I've got Michael

Schelenburger coming independent journalist who worked on the Twitter files as

well as other big issues, homelessness, nuclear power. He's really an interesting fellow.

Pete Pagosians is going to do his street epistemology

with us.

On Sunday, I have Jared Diamond coming up from LA.

We're going to record a live podcast episode with him as well and you'll be participating.

Much of the time will be spent with just questions and comments from the audience.

So it's going to be big fun.

We've got a fundraising dinner on Saturday night.

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before it sells out it's gonna be a terrific big fun see you then my guess today is Garrett

graph here's his new book you have oh garet has spent nearly two decades covering

politics technology and national security.

The former editor of Political magazine and a contributor to Wired and CNN he has written for

publications from Esquire to Rolling Stone to the New York Times.

And today he serves as the director for Cyber Initiatives at the Aspen Institute.

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