There's two possibilities, either we're alone in the universe or we're not.

Both are equally terrifying.

You said you want there to be aliens.

You want this to be true.

I want to challenge you on that and press and ask you why.

Something like 300 people supposed to have seen this, right, all saw an unidentified aerial phenomenon.

There's a lot of BS out there, but there's several cases that are 100% real, and we need to grapple with that as adults. Neil deGrasse Tyson, he's going on a tour, he's selling a book, he's grifting off this whole thing, and his main point is, show me the alien. So Neil, once we provide an alien to him, he'll then say, okay, aliens exist. And it's like, well, then what is the point of you, Neil? See, for me, that's a poster from the X-Files. It's a slogan, I want to believe. For me, I want to know. Get belief out of here. We have the right to know what is true about this universe. I think we could actually solve what is the greatest mystery of our time.

And I think we're on the path to do that.

Hello, and welcome to this interview where we should be talking about

various things to do with UFOs or UAPs, all sorts of various things.

We'll see where the conversation goes. It is an honor and a privilege to be joined by a good friend of mine, a returning guest to the show. One Mr. Devin Tracy, aka atheism is unstoppable. Mr. Tracy, how are you good, sir? Well, I have been knighted since we last spoke. So if you could have the sir next time, that would be appreciated.

But I'll take the intro.

Thank you.

I heard you got a peerage.

It's Lord Tracy, isn't it?

Did you say I'm on my period?

It is a pleasure to do business with you, to chat about something that has been a passion project of mine,

I think it's everybody's responsibility to kind of understand what is happening and what is real.

That's sort of why I talked about atheism because I care about what is real.

And I'm here to report something that might disturb some people, it might cause a reaction,

but I'm telling the world

that these UFO, not all of them. Okay, let's start there. There's a lot of BS out there,

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