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Hey, it's me, Ryan Holiday. Welcome to another episode of the Daily Stoke Podcast. My guest today is Michelle

Waterson, one of the greatest mixed martial arts fighters in the world. And as it happens as the Stokes would love to hear,

a bit of a stoke philosopher as well. I connected with Michelle on Instagram after I saw she posted about one of my books.

You can follow her at at karate hoti. It's two teas, MMA karate hoti MMA.

She's a great fighter. You've probably seen her on television. She's actually fought twice during the pandemic, which is pretty incredible.

But I think she lives by the philosophy that Mark Sterely talks about when he says

to face life like a wrestler dug in and ready for sudden attacks between 2013 and 2014. She was ranked as the number one women's

Adam Wait fighter in the world, which is pretty incredible. And right now she's ranked number seven in the UFC, which is incredible.

It was an honor to talk to her. Unfortunately, we couldn't do it in person. Michelle is also rep by Vayner like I am.

So enjoy this interview where we talk stoke philosophy, fighting parenting and greatness and mastery.

It's an honor to talk to Michelle. And I think you like this one.

I was thinking about this like on the one hand, there's it probably feels like there's nothing more different than or further apart than fighting and philosophy.

And yet I actually think they are intricately intertwined.

I agree.

Well, I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad around the same page. And I think I think one of the reasons I was maybe I was drawn to your work.

And I think you were maybe drawn to my work is that the Stoics were fighters themselves. Like when you read Seneca and epictetus and works through this, they they talk about wrestling and fighting and boxing.

And as if it was the sort of sport they were drawing their metaphors from just like we do today, which I think is so interesting.

Yeah, I think that it's kind of like it's a balance, right? You need one in order to have the other. It's like the mind and the body, they have to connect and the best the best way I know to connect my mind to my body is through physical pain.

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