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🗓️ 5 March 2023
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0:00.0 | Hi, there everyone. Welcome in. Look at us. I can hear myself in that studio. If you want my clothes in that door. Hi, everyone. My name is Luke Thomas. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. As you can see, we are inside the morning combat studios. As I mentioned, I'm LT BC is here. He is currently doing a hit for CBS sports HQ and then he will join us right there after this is the official UFC 285 post fight show instant reaction. Whatever you'd like to call we're going to get to the results from UFC. |
0:30.0 | 285 right now and also I have a tweet up. Excuse me one second. Let me plug this in like an idiot. Take me forever. We have a tweet up right now. You can follow me at L Thomas News. I have a tweet up asking for questions. Shoot us a good one. The producers will pick it and then we'll answer them live on air. We'll put them on the screen and it'll be a it'll be a dandy old time. Yeah. So thumbs up as well. If you are watching. If you are new here, please subscribe. We don't just do post fight shows in studio. |
1:00.0 | We're doing pretty rarely and we also do lots of live coverage Monday, Wednesday, Friday, live 11 a.m. in the East, me and Brian Campbell. But that is neither here nor there. Correct. Yes. UFC 285 is in the books. Ladies and gentlemen. So I'm going to start this off. Brian Campbell is going to finish this hit with CBS sports HQ and then he's going to be down here. You guys fill up the Twitter thread. We'll pick him. We'll answer him and then we're going to go piece by piece. Let's start where the conversation starts. Ladies and gentlemen. John Jones is back. I don't know if you heard |
1:30.0 | it. He did pretty well tonight. Wasn't I mean, what a joke. I've good Lord. Okay. So let's just get to the actual results with the full on time. John Jones defeats. Cyril gone at 204 of the very first round. He got. I don't know. I'll pull up the stats here. And just a second. Let me get that going here and get the stats up. They're not going to write up just yet. But basically the idea is this. John Jones gets a take down on Cyril gone. Cyril gone throws a punch. John gets under it. |
2:00.0 | Wraps him at the waist. Gone turns away as he throws the punch. And so now John has the back. Now he doesn't have hooks in, but he has a grip around the waist. And he follows him takes him to the ground. Nearly takes his back full on. Cyril is able to kind of stand a little bit but can't quite get away. He gets dragged back down this time. John facing Cyril right up against the fence. And he actually just drives his hips in straight past the knee line. If you go back and look of Cyril gone and ends up in kind of a |
2:30.0 | mount. Now it's not full on mount because gone is not laying down. He's sitting up against the fence. But John has sort of almost kind of sat in his lap at that point. And is able to eventually just lock up a guillotine choke. He sits it. He drives into it. Gone. Didn't really hand fight. I don't know what. I have to go back and look at all the sequences to have a better understanding of it. But he just look that he was a little bit lost and kind of overwhelmed. John locks up the guillotine choke and he taps. That's one of John Jones's easiest fights in UFC. |
3:00.0 | That's the history. Think about that for a second. John's had some fights where he's beating the shed. A guy's he beat up Jacob Ryan but it took longer than this. He beat up Matt Yushenko. It took longer than this. In fact, I can go through his fights. This is his first first round stoppage since beating Chale Sun and UFC 159 in April of 2013. And even that one went the full distance or actually, excuse me, 433. What happened before that he had a first round stoppage against Matt Yushenko. That was 152. I guess that was a little bit easier. |
3:30.0 | Brandon Vera went 319. Matt handled 414. Of course, that's the loss and so on and so forth. This is arguably his easiest win. It's up there with the Matt Yushenko fight. Ladies and gentlemen, let's take a step back for just a second and make very clear what we all discover tonight. And everyone who knows me knows I certainly am not a fan of John Jones as a person. And he and I probably will never ever see eye to eye not relevant. Doesn't matter who cares. Here is the reality. John Jones is the best mixed martial artist ever. |
4:00.0 | It's really not up for debate, not at this point. The guy took three years plus off. In addition to all the other breaks he had to the course of his career and all the distractions and everything else. But just this one takes about three years off, changes weight classes. They gave him the number one contender who had. What was it from the Francis and gone who fight 14 months or more to get better 15 months to get better to work on his take down defense to work on everything else. And John Jones blew. |
4:30.0 | The doors off of him. Made it look like it was it made it look like the Jake Gyllenhaal J here on pretend fight that they had for the movie they were shooting. Seriously, that one may have been even more competitive. This wasn't competitive. This was nothing. This was a walk in the park for a guy like that with all of those circumstances and all of that uncertainty and all of those questions and all of the legitimate changes losing one of it. |
5:00.0 | His longtime coaches. I'm sure there was tumultuous moments in his personal life having to change and rearrange his training all of the weight gain. Everything all of the doubt all of the second guessing. The guy just won another title up a weight class off of three years like it was. Nothing. He had practices last week that were harder than this. |
5:29.0 | I think about that for a second. That's the best fighter I've ever seen. It's the best fighter ever seen. He's just fucking flawless. When it matters in the end, when it truly, truly matters in the end, when it's time to compete, when it's go time by hook or by crook, this guy either finds a way or just runs everything in his way over. |
5:52.0 | I don't look that good or that dominant in a long time. Now, granted, we should also say that was, I don't know what that was from Cyril Gone. I don't know. I don't know if he, I don't know if their hand injury he had was real. I don't know if he was overcome by the moment. I really don't know. I don't get, I don't get exactly why he turned in such a dud of a performance. I think in fairness to him. Do I really think that's the very best that Cyril Gone could do? I don't know how fair that is. That seems a little harsh. |
6:21.0 | I think he could probably do better if given another opportunity, although one is probably not coming anytime soon. But you get the idea, folks, that's the best fighter I've ever seen. That's the best fighter in the history of the sport. And I've been watching it for a very long time. You can look at my gray ass hair. I've been around the block for a while. They just don't come like this. They just don't come like this. You just saw Vulcanovsky try to go away class just 10 pounds. And of course, you put on a hell of an effort, but you can see how difficult it was. And I know there's some other ones. What about Henry Sihudo when TJ came down away class or what about GSB taking time off? |
6:51.0 | I'm beating this thing. Yeah, but okay, even that one was more back and forth than this one. This was just nothing. Almost and actually depending on your perspective, maybe quite anticlimactic actually. I think for some people, they must have been like, I paid for this. It's funny. I saw some people on social media this week. This is how old and pathetic I am. But I saw some fans being like, this is the first time I'm going to see a John Jones fight live. I mean, they usually don't have a look. |
7:21.0 | They haven't looked like this in a long time. They haven't looked like this in a long time, long time. He made it look effortless. It's truly, he had a huge sweat going. He had a fat guy sweat going at the end of the fight there because he really didn't do a whole lot. He didn't really have to do a whole lot. I just, you add, you add up the context. You add up the circumstances. You add up the challenges. You add up what we knew about gone. And if you watch MK, you know, I've been high on gone for a long time, although I did have serious questions about his ground game. |
7:51.0 | I articulated those this past week. You know, it's hard to fight off John Jones once he's already wrapped around your waist from a punch. So that's not quite take down defense altogether. But he didn't put up a sturdy defense in the grappling. He failed to hand fight on the choke effectively. You should not be getting stopped in a heavyweight championship about that way. But, but John was was simply not to be denied today. He was simply not going to be held back or otherwise. |
8:21.0 | I'm not a big believer in destiny. I don't think any of that is real. I think you create your own destiny. There's no divine plan for any of us. But there are people who are enormously talented. And he is one of them. And despite all the times he has tried to self sabotage his way out of there. He just finds ways to reinvent himself in this particular context. And more importantly, just keep stacking W's. |
8:51.0 | There's one problem that we have. There's really not enough information for us to fully gauge like all the truth of what the weight gain will mean for John. If he has another opponent like Steve Bay, who's, you know, a better wrestler and perhaps more careful. What will John's cardio look like in the third and fourth and fifth rounds. I think these are still relevant and important questions. Certainly. He didn't look too slow. We didn't get a great sample size. He didn't look. |
9:21.0 | He didn't look too slow for me. He still looked pretty nimble. There were, what were the rumors? Camera guys. What were the rumors before the fight today that John was injured? He was injured, right? Who's limping? Did anyone see any evidence of that? I know he had the toe tape and they cut it. But if you've ever injured your big toe, they tape it next to the side toe. So that creates a bit of a buddy system for support so that it can create alignment and you can still bounce. A lot of big guys do that. So it's a very common thing. But they cut off the one on the center of the foot and left everything else. |
9:51.0 | But he looked, again, it's a small sample size. He looked pretty sprightly. He looked pretty quick. Gone looked a little bit quicker, but not dramatically. So do you have Brian Campbell? Yeah, here he is. All right. So let's sit him down. This is the man who picked gone like a fucking idiot. All right. Brian Campbell, Luke Thomas. Let's reset UFC 285 morning combat in some reaction post fight show BC. I said John Jones is the best fighter I've ever seen. |
10:21.0 | Would you disagree? Well, it's clearly not. Look, let's be honest, a little little anti-climactic that victory. John though doesn't get any any any disparaging comments against him. He took it took advantage of the opportunity. Took the fight to an area which was his strength and was Gone's weakness. |
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