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The Times Tech Podcast

Udacity’s Sebastian Thrun: “A watershed moment for online education”

The Times Tech Podcast

Will Morley

Business, Unknown, Technology

4.9654 Ratings

🗓️ 29 May 2020

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

The Sunday Times’ tech correspondent brings on Sebastian Thrun, founder of Udacity and chief executive of Kitty Hawk, on the turning point for online education (6:40), the slow evolution of university (8:10), the broken business model of higher education (11:20), the importance of social cache (16:05), how he got started (18:40), doing it despite Stanford’s resistance (22:00), competing against the big brands (25:40), the limits of online learning (28:20), how the pandemic has impacted his other passion, flying cars (30:40), how he got started (34:40), what flying cars could do to transport (37:10), the hurdles (40:10), why history is important (42:40), the fear of uncertainty (46:00), and using AI in cancer (49:55).

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0:00.0

Yeah, technology.

0:02.0

What is it all about?

0:04.0

I was teaching at Stanford and went to my co-instructor and said,

0:07.0

hey, should we take our class online?

0:09.0

He looked at me.

0:10.0

It was like a specialized class on something called artificial intelligence.

0:14.0

We gave those students the exact same homework assignments and exams as we gave Stanford students.

0:20.0

And then we stack ranked at the end and asked

0:22.1

who is better. Is there Stanford students or the online students? It turned out the top

0:26.4

412 students were online and the single best Stanford student ranked number 413.

0:35.7

Hello and welcome to Dan in the Valley, your weekly dispatch from behind the scenes and

0:40.8

inside the minds of the top people in tech. I am your host, Danny Fortson, West Coast correspondent

0:46.2

for the Sunday Times. And thank you. Thank you for tuning in. This week, we're going to be

0:52.5

positive. So the world feels, uh, you know, pretty dark

0:55.9

right now. So I thought I'd bring on somebody who, uh, who sees the bright side, who's

1:00.2

concentrating on how the pandemic can change things for the better in amidst all of this

1:06.7

terribleness. And he's actually trying to help those changes come to life and come to

1:11.3

life quickly. This week's guest is none other than Sebastian Trune, who, if you don't know,

1:18.8

is kind of a big deal out here. So his resume is a little ridiculous. He was a Stanford

1:24.5

professor of artificial intelligence, computer science. He launched Google X,

1:29.4

this secretive research lab that's been at Google now for years. He's the father of the self-driving car

1:35.2

industry, having launched what is today known as Waymo back then. It was known as chauffeur out of Google.

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