UC Berkeley's Alison Gopnik: "Babies are the ultimate supercomputers"

The Times Tech Podcast

Will Morley

Business, Unknown, Technology

4.9 • 654 Ratings

🗓️ 5 April 2019

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

The Sunday Times’ tech correspondent brings on Dr Alison Gopnik, a developmental psychologist, to talk about why babies could be the key to artificial intelligence (3:45), the limits to current systems (5:40), infants as supercomputers (8:00), the power of experimentation (10:15), how young brains learn (12:50), coding curiosity (16:15), how the tech industry has come around to kids (17:35), recreating the human brain (20:30), what electricity can tell us about AI regulation (23:00), whether we should be worried (25:35), why we’re just starting to understand the brain (33:20), why we should expect unexpected outcomes (34:35), nerd machismo (37:15), and why babies can teach engineers to improve the world (39:50)

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0:10.0	What do you say?
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0:13.0	Good job.
0:14.0	You say, this is Danny in the Valley.
0:18.0	This is the valley and daddy.
0:23.3	Yo, technology.
0:25.1	What is it all about?
0:33.0	Hello and welcome to Danny in the Valley.
0:34.9	Thank you for tuning in.
0:39.5	And don't worry, what you heard was not put there by mistake.
0:43.7	That was my son Cole, who is two and a half years old. And what he said, his cute little jumble of words,
0:47.9	is exactly the type of thing that is of most interest to this week's guest.
0:57.6	Allison Gopnik is a cognitive psychologist who has spent 20 plus years studying babies and young children, specifically how they learn.
1:05.1	And she's doing that because she thinks that these little people could be the key to unlocking the next big leap
1:13.8	in artificial intelligence, which if you think about it, makes sense.
1:19.1	This, for example, is my four-month-old, Jet, expressing his displeasure about, I'm not sure what.
1:32.3	Now, if his brother is any guide, before long he'll start speaking, then stringing words together,
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