So today we are very excited to welcome one of the most impressive leaders in global finance,

Saggio Ermotti, CEO of UBS, which is one of the biggest banks in the world.

Saggio led UBS from 2011 until 2020, but he recently made a dramatic return after the historic

acquisition of the main rival Credit Swiss.

But first, Sardio will go all the way back.

When you were even younger, you were a talented football player.

So how come you ended up in banking?

I wasn't so talented, obviously. So I guess, well, my dream was definitely, I would have

swapped until today probably playing a final of the World Cup and scoring a goal with my current job,

for sure.

So I guess my dream as a young person was definitely to be a professional football player.

But then in Switzerland, you know, we go through an education system that allows you to go through an apprenticeship.

So I started in banking as a plan B, you know, to the football career.

And so when it turned out that I wasn't good enough to be a football player or a professional one, at least,

then I opted for becoming, being a trader.

And so my career in banking started. Yeah. Well, I would argue you've

got, you scored quite a lot of goals, but it's just that it's been in finance rather than football.

But what happened? You got a very important position. You were only 27 years old. Yeah, that was

probably the defining, one of the defining moments in my career because back then I went

through an apprenticeship, I stayed in Lugano, the south of Switzerland, and I did a master in banking.

And then I was hired by Citibank to be a trader for convertible bonds and options and so on.

And I did it for 18 months, and that I got the famous offer you can't refuse from Merlinch,

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