Yeah.

Oh, I'm so excited.

Welcome into episode 20 of UAP, the Unidentified Alien podcast, Stephen Deiner right here.

Karen, Curtis, over there.

And we are excited today, Karen, because this is, we've been waiting to do this one for a couple weeks about a man named

randy kramer so today's going to be very interesting i mean i knew he was crazy but now i see he's nuts

it's just wait until you hear this story about this guy what he claims and look we are always open

to keeping our minds open yeah we're just presenting it to you. Right.

What you do with it is your own business. That's correct. But when I heard this story a few

years back and again, it's one of those things that I've been sitting on and afraid to talk

about it because people might think I'm absolutely insane if I mention it to them. But that's what

we do here. It is a podcast to kind of release to vent on stories that may not be so crazy after all,

especially since the government came out with that report back in the summer.

Yeah, you know, this guy is so matter of fact, and he speaks kind of eloquently about what he says happened to him

and the things that he's done out in space that you tend to believe him.

I mean, who is this guy that we're talking about, Randy Kramer, right?

Yeah.

Here, this, he explains his bio.

Well, I'm a captain of United States Marine Corps special section, which is the covert

military space program arm of the Marine Corps, which was formed in about the 1954 timeframe by President

Dwight D. Eisenhower's response to his lack of cooperation than he was getting from the MJ12

committee. Whoa, that was a lot. There was a lot in there. So let's come back to that because

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