Yes, here we go.

Finally, welcome in to UAP for episode number 197.

Stephen Dean are back with you here, as always, on the Unidentified Alien podcast.

And, man, it feels like it's been forever i think

just you know it took me a while to get this one together with the easter holiday and then with

the christopher sharp interview it's um it took a little while to get this one edited and get it

out there because it went for over two hours which is why i wanted to spend a little extra time on it in the

back end because I have split this up between two parts. This is part one with myself and

Timothy Albarino. And it really feels good to say that because if you don't know or if you're

not really, like, really familiar with Timothy Albarino and his work and what he's done.

He's, you know, really, he's a great mind in this field.

He's a uphologist.

He's an explorer.

He goes and speaks at a lot of different conferences.

And he's a really well-known name within the field of uphology.

And, you know, if you follow along as far as people who comment on these things, he's one of those bigger names out there. And it's somebody that I've wanted to, and you'll actually hear me say it, but it's somebody that I wanted to have on here for a few years. Honestly, Tim has been on my radar for, I think, since 2023, ever since the Peru face peelers.

If you remember that, the face peelers in Peru, that saga that was happening back in

2003 because Tim went there to investigate.

And he was the only person who went there to investigate at the height of that phenomenon.

So since then, I've been wanting to bring him onto the show,

and I'm really, really happy that worked out the way it did,

because as you can tell here, since it is two parts,

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