The weight is over. Dive into Audubles' most anticipated collection, the best of 2025, featuring top audiobooks, podcasts, and originals across all genres. Our editors have carefully curated this year's must-listens, from brilliant hidden gems to the busiest new releases.

Every title in this collection has earned its spot.

This is your go-to for the absolute best in 2025 audio entertainment.

Whether you love thrillers, romance, or non-fiction,

your next favorite listen awaits.

Discover why there's more to imagine when you listen at audible.com slash best of the year.

Yes, welcome back into UAP.

Stephen Dean are back with you here, as always, on the Unidentified Alien podcast for episode number 176. And today, we are going to finish things off with Matt Ford,

part two of my discussion with him, host of The Good Trouble Show on YouTube and anywhere else

you get your podcast. And he was great. I mean, just an awesome discussion back and forth.

And, you know, it was, it was so long that I kind of just wanted to split up into two different parts. So hopefully you enjoyed part one. If you want to go back and, you know, here's some of the highlights there, by all means for this part two. Well, we're going to dive right back in, really, and pick up where we left off. And we pick up actually speaking about an interview that Elon Musk had

recently, because that's always one of the big questions is, what does Elon know? And funny enough,

the reason why I brought this up to Matt was because Elon brought up the question himself.

So I wanted to kind of get Matt's thoughts on that. And you know, what kind of, what kind of knowledge does

Elon Musk have and if he's hiding anything, which is up for debate, obviously. So we get into

some of those things. And why does all this stay a secret, right? If all this is true when it comes

to, you know, reverse engineering and secret governments, installations and everything we've spoken about when it comes to reverse engineering and secret governments installations and everything

we've spoken about when it comes to the UAP phenomenon, the UFO phenomenon, why does it stay a secret?

So we get into that a little bit. And also, why don't the adversaries, if adversaries have

some of this tech as well and they know the big secret, why don't

they come out and say it before the U.S. does and try to get a one-up on the United States?

So there are some really deep discussions and these deep topics that I wanted to get into

...