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Yes, welcome back into UAP for episode number 172.

Stephen Dean are back with you here.

As always, on the Unidentified Alien podcast.

So happy to be back to finish off this conversation with a good buddy here at Jordan Crowder.

Really great to meet him and was so happy to talk to him for as long as we did,

almost an hour and a half, actually, when we recorded this interview a few days ago.

So now we get to finish it off here with Part 2.

And it picks up right where we left off at the end of Part 1.

And we pick up actually going into the topic, going into the conversation about remote viewing. Because during the course of the conversation with Jordan, I found out that

he was a student at the Monroe Institute, which is basically the, I guess you could say, the main

university, if you will, the main school when it comes to teaching things like remote viewing and how to kind of harness that ability.

Joe McMonagall is someone you're going to hear about.

Now, you should be familiar with him, I would think.

But if not, that's fine too.

We did a couple of episodes on him, a couple of years, maybe about last year or so.

And we get into Joe McMonagle and why he is important in the remote viewing topic and Jordan's actual conversations with Joe, because he is one of the main stalwarts there at the Monroe Institute.

So we get into what he learned there, what he learned from Joe.

Pretty interesting stuff to say the least. And then we get into all the existential questions,

right? The spiritual connections, consciousness. How does this all connect with the phenomenon?

And also his own near-death experience. I didn't know that Jordan had a near-death experience again until

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