UAP Disclosure: Psychology of Government Secrets & Public Perception
The Dr. Phil Podcast
Dr. Phil McGraw
4.3 • 13.5K Ratings
🗓️ 21 May 2025
⏱️ 61 minutes
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Summary
As drones and covert operations raise questions about national security, Luis Elizondo and Bryce Zabel shed light on the growing transparency movement and ask the ultimate question: What does the government really know—and why isn't it telling us?
Former senior intelligence official and whistleblower Luis Elizondo and award-winning writer, producer and journalist Bryce Zabel expose the secrets hidden in government reports about Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), also known as UFOs. From the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) to legislation spearheaded by Chuck Schumer and Marco Rubio referencing 'non-human intelligence,' they both unravel explosive claims of recovered alien technology, biological specimens, and Navy pilot videos of seemingly impossible maneuvers.
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| 0:00.0 | Why do you think the government is withholding information? |
| 0:04.0 | There's a lot of people both at the Pentagon and at the CIA that are trying to figure out how to have this conversation with the American people. |
| 0:11.0 | When it comes to disclosure, the real question that has to be answered by everybody is it depends on what is disclosed. |
| 0:18.0 | There is no doubt in your mind that we are not alone. |
| 0:31.1 | Welcome back to Dr. Phil podcast. Very interesting today. Some of you are going to be intrigued because you're just interested. |
| 0:40.7 | Some of you are going to be intrigued because you are concerned. I'm talking to |
| 0:46.2 | former senior intelligence official and whistleblower Louis Elizondo, an award-winning writer, producer, and journalist Bryce Zabel, who exposed |
| 0:57.0 | the secrets hidden in government reports about unidentified aerial phenomena, UAP, also known as UFOs. |
| 1:09.0 | From the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, AATIP, to legislation |
| 1:17.6 | spearheaded by Chuck Schumer and Marco Rubio referencing non-human intelligence, they both unravel |
| 1:25.1 | explosive claims of recovered alien technology, biological specimens, and |
| 1:31.2 | Navy pilot videos of seemingly impossible maneuvers. Now, as drones and covert operations |
| 1:37.9 | raise questions about national security, Elizondo and Zabel shed light on the growing transparency |
| 1:44.1 | movement and asked the ultimate question, |
| 1:47.0 | what does the government really know, and why isn't it telling us? |
| 1:53.0 | Gentlemen, thank you both for joining me. Everybody now knows who you guys are, and I am sure, leaning forward into this subject matter. |
| 2:00.0 | You know, I used to think leaning forward into this subject matter. |
| 2:06.5 | You know, I used to think and comment on this as, I would say, a healthy degree of skepticism. |
| 2:12.7 | My biggest concern was that every time I saw someone on camera talking about this, he was somebody in a dirty gimmie cap, but of late, we have seen very sophisticated aviators. We have seen |
| 2:24.1 | military pilots reporting very interesting and unexplainable phenomenon. And we have seen |
| 2:34.1 | evidence of government reports that suggest that this isn't |
| 2:39.3 | just somebody that has had their daily 12-pack sitting on a boat somewhere reporting things |
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