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Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing

U.S. Hits AA+ and the iPhone Slumps

Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing

The Motley Fool

Investing, Business

4.33.1K Ratings

🗓️ 4 August 2023

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Apple’s having the bad kind of “iPhone moment” and one restaurant chain is showing great growth without raising prices.  (00:35) Jason Moser and Bill Mann discuss: - Fitch downgrading U.S. credit and why it shouldn’t worry investors. - How slowing iPhone sales are weighing on Apple, and how AWS keeps cruising for Amazon.  - Surprise profits from Uber, impressive traffic from Wingstop, E.l.f’s epic quarter, and how PayPal might not go anywhere until they announce a new CEO. (19:05) Motley Fool analyst Rick Munarriz weighs in on the state of Disney’s Marvel and whether they can re-capture the box office magic any time soon..   (32:00) Jason and Bill break down two stocks on their radar: Calloway TopGolf and Outset Medical. Stocks discussed: AMZN, AAPL, UBER, ELF, PYPL, WING, MODG, OM Host: Dylan Lewis Guests: Bill Mann, Jason Moser, Rick Munarriz Engineers: Rick Engdahl Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Fitchways in on U.S. Credit, monthly full money starts now.

0:30.0

We've got updates from the biggest companies in the world and a breakdown on what's happening at the box office, but we're going to start today looking at the big macro and a headline that I have to admit was a bit of a surprise for me.

0:53.0

Credit rating agency Fitch downgraded U.S. debt to AA plus from its previous sterling rating of AAA bill, I have a layman's understanding of credit rating and to be honest U.S. debt, can you walk me through what's happening here?

1:08.0

Well, it's big in one certain way. The U.S. Treasury notes and bills are the baseline for the entire credit market and a lot of people don't really realize it, but this is a much bigger market than the equity market.

1:20.0

So what we're talking about here is an amount of debt for the U.S. government that costs about a trillion dollars a year just for us to surface.

1:28.0

So the stock market didn't take this news very well. The U.S. credit was downgraded from AAA, which means that there's almost no chance under any circumstances that there would be a default to AA plus, which is still summa cum laude.

1:44.0

That means there is maybe a tiny bit more chance that it's going to default.

1:51.0

It's symbolic. It is a meaningful, meaningful symbol simply because it is such a large part of the global economy as the underpinning of the reserve currency, but it's not that big of a deal.

2:07.0

We are several steps above almost every country in the world. I mean, we're behind like Switzerland and Singapore now.

2:14.0

I believe there's eight that currently have AAA ratings. Maybe eight or nine. Yeah, exactly like Luxembourg, you know, countries that you're like, yeah, their money is good.

2:22.0

So our money is basically good. We're tied with Canada now and you know, we like, that's a great place to be.

2:28.0

I think Jamie Diamond was calling out that Canada cop there and his interview here earlier this week, right? I mean, he was like, listen, this is no big deal.

2:36.0

The grand scheme of things, the market determines rates, not these, not these ratings, agencies, but it kind of felt like it was more for optics.

2:44.0

You kind of seem like you were hitting towards that and it seems like this is more for optics.

2:48.0

Well, I did say a trillion dollars and that's in debt servicing that the US government has to pay each year at this point.

2:55.0

And that, I don't know if you guys know this, but that's quite a lot of money. That's big figure. That is a big figure.

3:01.0

But you know, Warren Buffett came out and he said, look, we bought $10 billion at Berkshire in Treasuries last week.

3:07.0

This next week, we're going to buy $10 billion again in Treasuries.

3:12.0

So it's a little strange being below Singapore and Sweden and Johnson and Johnson, but it's really, really not that huge of a deal.

3:21.0

I side with Warren Buffett on this one. I don't know if you know this. That's always a pretty safe.

3:29.0

That's a good side of things to be on.

3:31.0

That was I think in a lot of ways the macro story of the week, but I also want to zoom in on one that either people missed or if you saw it might have been a little frightening.

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