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Vice Admiral Robert Horwood. He's the senior advisor with the Iran Policy Project,

Jewish Institute for National Security of America.

Vice Admiral, welcome.

Ron, good to be with you.

So do you agree with the general and for me, for what it's worth, that you cannot say you

want if the straits in Iran's hands and they're charging tolls?

Without a doubt.

That's been the objective since day one. And part of that is their

ability to project missiles hit missiles. So the missiles and the straits have remained a

priorities from day one. And I can sense a little bit of the president's frustration that has not

been accomplished. And we can do it. Of course, there's risk associated, but there's also

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