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Think from KERA

U.S. defense strategy from Washington to Trump

Think from KERA

KERA

Kera, 071003, Think, Society & Culture, Krysboyd

4.7911 Ratings

🗓️ 30 January 2026

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

The U.S. has always told the world it is a protector of peace — even if that meant through violence. Michael O’Hanlon, Philip H. Knight Chair in Defense and Strategy at the Brookings Institution, joins guest host John McCaa to discuss the evolution of how the nation approaches defense – from fledgling republic to global superpower. His book is “To Dare Mighty Things: U.S. Defense Strategy Since the Revolution.”

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0:00.0

From KERA in Dallas, this is Think.

0:08.6

I'm John McKay, sitting in for Chris Boyd.

0:11.7

We will hear a luck this year about the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence.

0:17.8

The historic document clearly outlined our thoughts, our aspirations for creating

0:22.1

an ideal society of free men and women, aspirations with which we still struggle to make real

0:28.4

in every way. From a small group of states united in fending off vast empires, America has risen

0:35.7

to become the world's preeminent power. But how in the second

0:40.1

quarter of the 21st century do we continue to help maintain peace in the most dramatic period

0:45.6

in human history? Do we even know who we are as a nation, or our own DNA, so to speak? Michael O'Hanlon

0:54.0

has studied those questions for decades. He's a policy

0:57.4

analyst, an author, and Brookings Institution Federal, and Director of Research. He's just written

1:03.5

to dare mighty things U.S. Defense Strategy since the Revolution. He joins me this hour.

1:09.0

Michael, welcome to think. It's great to be with you. Thanks for having me on.

1:13.3

I want to start with that title. That is from a Theodore Roosevelt speech. It's called The Strenuous Life.

1:23.5

And he says, as it is with the individual, so it is with the nation. It is a base on truth to say that happy is the nation that has no history. Thrice happy is the nation that has glorious history. Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much,

1:47.5

because they live in the grave twilight that knows not victory nor defeat.

1:52.6

That inspired you to write that, that whole idea that he has at that point?

1:58.4

Yeah, thank you for reading it.

1:59.7

I guess he didn't really need any

2:01.3

speechwriter help, did he? He was pretty good with the pen. Yeah, pretty good use of the English

2:07.4

language. And, you know, I think most of us find, you know, Roosevelt and appealing and interesting

2:13.9

figure. And obviously he had a very adventurousome and, you know, successful life in many ways,

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