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I'm Ashley McKinless, and I'm very excited to be joined by Zach Davis.

I am excited to be podcasting, but in a very real sense, I had a lot of fun with my baby,

and I would much rather be with her.

Understandable.

What was the best part?

You know, just like the... Being able to spend so much time around her while her brain is moving and she's changing so much.

Anyone will tell you that like the difference between a three-month-old and a six-month-old who has witnessed that, like, is immense.

And so she's doing new things every day.

The latest thing is that she really wants to start

crawling and moving around the apartment but can't quite figure out how to do it yet. So very

frustrated. So I think I've got a strong willed woman on my hands. So well, two. That's right. Yeah.

Three if you count this podcast. No, it's great to have you back. And we have a great first show for your return. We're talking to Tim Schreiber. He was the chairman of Special Olympics for decades. And then he left that role and founded a nonprofit called Unite, which incubated this really unique thing that they call the

Dignity Index, which basically grades are public speech on a scale from basically charitable to

contempt filled or dignified to contempt filled. Yeah, so what they're trying to do is look at things

that our political leaders say, our other leaders say, and sort of, you know, run that through, like, this scale that you're talking about. And what we talked to Tim a lot about, especially, was this idea of contempt and the role that contempt plays in our public discourse. And really, you know, to the extent that that influences our interpersonal relationships

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