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U.S., China and the race for cheaper AI 11/10/25

TechCheck

CNBC

Management, Cnbc, Tech, Faang, Investing, Business, Disruptors, Technology

4.566 Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2025

⏱️ 5 minutes

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Summary

The AI trade is back in the green after a volatile week as new reporting emerges of a massive $18B financing deal for an Oracle-tied data center. We dig into the massive U.S. AI spend and how compares to China’s advancing AI efforts.

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0:00.0

AI trades back in the green after that tough week last week comes on the back of the reported

0:04.2

massive $18 billion financing deal for an Oracle Tide data center in New Mexico.

0:10.0

Our dear Dubosa is looking at that and this new divide in AI for today's tech check.

0:13.7

Hey, Dee.

0:14.6

Hey, Carl.

0:15.3

So Oracle, that's just the latest AI mega debt deal.

0:18.7

And it really underscores a growing contrast in the AI race at large.

0:22.2

Now, in the U.S., the AI boom, it is being built on borrowed money. So massive data centers

0:26.8

financed through private credit and bond markets. In China, as a contrast, it is being built on

0:32.8

efficiency. That's cheaper chips and open source models, far leaner infrastructure requiring far less capital.

0:39.6

Now, this is the artificial analysis intelligence index cited by Goldman in a note over the weekend.

0:45.4

Chinese models like Kimmy and Alibaba's Quinn, they're ranking alongside top American models on benchmarks despite that massive difference in investment.

0:55.1

Now, the latest breakthrough, it came last week from a Chinese startup backed by Alibaba called Moonshot.

1:00.6

Its open source model, Kimi K2, outperforming on several standard benchmarks and reportedly costing less than $5 million to train.

1:07.6

Now, if that sounds familiar, it's because it is.

1:09.9

It fits into the story that's really

1:11.2

been emerging from China's AI scene since the beginning of this year. Moonshot, Mini Max, Quen,

1:16.2

and yes, Deep Seek, all continue to close the performance gap with far smaller budgets. Now,

1:22.0

take a look at this chart. U.S. Cloud Giants, they are projected to spend nearly $700 billion

1:27.4

on data centers by 2027.

1:30.3

China's biggest players, Alibaba, Tencent, Bight Dance, and Bidu, they are together expected to

1:36.7

spend about $35 billion. That is a 20 to one gap in capital spending for systems that are

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