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U.S. Allies and the Human Cost of War | Ep. 285 | Pt. 2

Mike Drop

Mike Ritland

News, Personal Journals, Society & Culture, Politics

4.96.5K Ratings

🗓️ 2 April 2026

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

Former Australian Commando Heston Russell continues his detailed account of life inside Australia’s elite special forces. He covers domestic counter-terrorism readiness, high-stakes training exchanges with U.S. DEVGRU and FBI HRT, protecting the Prime Minister in Afghanistan, and leading intense combat operations during his 2012 deployment—including 67 missions, significant insurgent casualties, and the loss of a teammate to an IED. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

In that first block, the domestic thing, I'm curious, the only kind of equivalent I can think of is maybe like the FBI, HART, or maybe even Bortac at this point, depending on what's going on, but kind of a national level quick response group.

0:20.0

But with Australia being a fairly good size country,

0:22.6

I mean, are you broken down into,

0:24.9

you'll respond anywhere or is it prioritized?

0:27.4

Do you have like this platoon would cover this half

0:29.8

and this half or like the Bondi beach thing?

0:31.9

Would you guys, would your guys have responded to that?

0:34.7

No, so we really are the force of last resort and we maintain a tight number of

0:40.2

hours, notice to move, you know, allowed to drink, all that sort of stuff. But as far as the

0:48.0

legislation in Australia required, we could only respond if there had been a handover from the government to the military,

0:57.4

which could be being conducted by either the Premier, the Prime Minister or the Governor of that state.

1:02.9

For example, just fast forwarding here a moment, the end of 2014, I was the adjutant of Tucamando, which has a senior role within that

1:13.6

domestic Canada tourism role, when the Lint Cafe siege happened in Australia. A gunman took

1:19.6

a group of people hostage in the Lint Cafe right in the middle of Sydney City, and we responded by immediately recalling our people constructing a full mock-up of

1:33.8

that building, that location at our 360 degree range out at Holesworthy and conducting training

1:40.7

cereals getting ready to do it. We embedded snipers with the police snipers,

1:46.0

but at that time in Australia our legislation was so stringent whereby there was double or triple glazing on the windows into that,

1:54.0

and the police didn't have a tactical sniper rifle that could penetrate the glass, but we had our 50 Cal Barrett's and Afghanistan weaponry,

2:06.0

but even for us to be able to hand over those weapons for the police to use would have required a full handover of authority to the police. And sadly, that resolved in a very poor result,

2:12.4

but the legislation has since changed since then.

2:14.5

Yeah, wow. Have there been many instances where that block of

2:22.0

commandos is actually used real world operationally in country? I don't think I'm glad to say that.

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