Tzintzun Aguilar-Izzo & Blake Lavia: Returning to each other and the remembrance of “Water is Life”
Green Dreamer: Seeding change towards collective healing, sustainability, regeneration
Kaméa Chayne
4.8 • 694 Ratings
🗓️ 9 July 2024
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Summary
What does it mean to remember ourselves as representatives of our rivers, oceans, and other earthly bodies of water? Why is it vital to recognize the failed logic underpinning regulatory systems that take on an “innocent until proven guilty” approach to water pollution? And how can we leverage our tools as artists, storytellers, and creatives to co-create felt change?
In this episode, we dialogue with Tzintzun Aguilar-Izzo and Blake Lavia of Talking Wings Collective for a synergistic conversation — where they invite us to think and dream with water.
Join us as the artist-activist duo expands on how the legal frameworks surrounding pollution often exist in “grey areas”; why we need to problematize such “bureaucracies of death” as maintaining worldviews of separation between people and our waterful world; and what it means to replace extractivist modes of relating with our ecosystems that better align with the Indigenous framing of “Water is Life.”
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| 0:54.3 | So we have a system in which most of the chemicals which are released into the world |
| 1:00.5 | every single day, every single year, aren't tested. |
| 1:04.6 | They aren't tested by any of the agencies they are just released. |
| 1:08.9 | Years later, we discover that, oh, all of these things cause cancer, all of these things poison |
| 1:14.3 | ourselves and other more than human beings. |
| 1:17.7 | And in this space in which we always act too late, they were always catching up to the problem. |
| 1:29.0 | You're listening to Green Dreamer, and I'm your host, Kamehashane. |
| 1:34.1 | Today we are speaking with Zun-Zun Aguilar-Izo and Blake Lavia, two environmental storytellers |
| 1:41.5 | from the Talking Wings Collective, who presently reside in the Upper St. |
| 1:46.4 | Loris River Watershed. They're currently collaborating with the organization Talking Rivers |
| 1:52.0 | to educate communities about the rights and rights of rivers and their ecosystems, using art, |
| 2:00.1 | storytelling, and ecocentric conversations. |
| 2:04.5 | In this society, at least from my own person's perspective, I'm seeing us all bombarded by stories. |
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