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The Michael Steele Podcast

Tyranny of the Minority: With Professors Daniel Ziblatt and Steven Levitsky

The Michael Steele Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, Government, History, News

4.83.1K Ratings

🗓️ 4 October 2023

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Michael is joined by Daniel Ziblatt and Steven Levitsky, professors of government at Harvard University and the authors of "Tyranny of the Minority: Why American Democracy Reached the Breaking Point." They discuss what it means to be a party committed to democracy, how our constitution makes us vulnerable to minority rule, reforming the electoral college and the "semi-loyalists" who play a role in harming our democracy.

Check out the book here: https://www.amazon.com/Tyranny-Minority-American-Democracy-Breaking/dp/0593443071

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0:00.0

Well, folks, again, welcome to the Michael still podcast. We've got a good intellectual exercise for you

0:07.7

in the time we're going to spend together America is as we all know the only presidential democracy in the world in which the president is

0:15.7

elevated

0:16.7

elected if you will be an

0:18.9

electoral college rather than the direct election of voters or by voters. We are also the only democracy in the world with lifetime

0:26.6

ten you far supreme court justices and our constitution is the hardest in the world to change because it requires supermajorities

0:33.9

not just in one but both legislative chambers

0:37.5

plus the approval of three quarters of the states today's guess on the Michael still podcast have some thoughts about how we begin to reform this system

0:47.1

to make us less vulnerable to minority rule. I'm excited to welcome Steve Lovitsky and Daniel Ziblatt

0:54.9

both professors of government at Harvard University and the co-authors of the new book

1:00.4

tyranny of the minority why American democracy reached the breaking point

1:05.2

tune in join in coming up next on the Michael still podcast bring your patent paper and some coffee you're going to love it

1:12.2

You're going to enjoy it a lot

1:14.2

Hey, everybody welcome to the Michael still podcast. It is always great to be with you as you know

1:28.9

I love you guys you guys show love on me and you know I like to press the envelope and really kind of push out our

1:37.6

thinking about things so that requires as we do in most gatherings

1:42.7

bringing really smart people to the table you know that help a brother out because I don't even pretend to know half let alone all of what's going on out there

1:50.9

and I think we've done that with two very very smart gentlemen professors of government at Harvard University

2:01.0

and co-authors of the book tyranny of the minority

2:05.1

It is real pleasure to welcome both of you

2:08.4

Steve and Daniel to the conversation so hey welcome guys

2:13.1

Yes, great. Thanks for having us Michael

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