Tyra Banks Is (Kinda) Sorry
Cannonball with Wesley Morris
The New York Times
4.7 • 9.4K Ratings
🗓️ 5 March 2026
⏱️ 40 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Wesley Morris and this is Cannonball today. |
| 0:06.0 | They're all gorgeous, but only one has what it takes. |
| 0:15.0 | In the old days of TV, and by old, I mean like the early 2000s, you were still channel surfing. |
| 0:23.2 | You know, like you take your remote and you'd flip around. |
| 0:26.1 | And when the show you were watching was in the middle of a commercial, you'd maybe watch some other show that you found interesting. |
| 0:32.9 | For a while, that was how I wound up at UPN watching America's Next Top Model, between Whoopi and, like, the West Wing. |
| 0:42.4 | But many, many other people watch this show, believing their modeling dreams could come true. |
| 0:51.4 | Now, there's a popular new docu-series about the show that needs us to know how bad America's next top model treated those women. |
| 1:00.5 | On the one hand, where is the news here? |
| 1:03.9 | It's the fashion industry and it's reality television. |
| 1:07.6 | It's reality television about people trying to break into the fashion industry. |
| 1:12.9 | We were watching for the inane challenges and the judgey scrutinizing of everything from teeth |
| 1:20.6 | and hair texture to walks and jiggle. But then I watched this thing. |
| 1:28.9 | It's called Reality Check Inside America's Next Top Model. |
| 1:32.5 | And I realized the show's host and star Tyra Banks agreed to sit for an interview. |
| 1:37.4 | And I'm like, that feels interesting to me. |
| 1:40.5 | At least right now in this national moment of denying responsibility for anything, |
| 1:47.0 | here is a person, maybe trying to practice accountability, maybe. |
| 1:53.5 | I wanted to bring all of this to Michaela Angela Davis, who's been in the fashion and beauty |
| 1:58.9 | industries for a long time. As a journalist, as a stylist, as an editor for Essence and my subway platform magazine |
| 2:08.4 | stand purchase, honey, where you can find out all about what was happening in Black Beauty. |
| 2:13.9 | And I started by asking her to go back to 2003 when top model started. |
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