Type 2: Healing Helpers with Hunter Mobley

Everything Belongs: Living the Teachings of Richard Rohr Forward

Center for Action and Contemplation

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8 • 723 Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2026

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

Today on Everything Belongs we're joined by author and Enneagram teacher Hunter Mobley, to explore Type Two on the Enneagram — “the helper.” Type Twos excel at offering deep empathy, generosity, loyalty, and a strong desire to care for others. However, there’s also a shadow side to this type; they may struggle with boundaries, have hidden expectations for validation, or carry resentment from giving too much to others. Fr. Richard explains that many Twos learn early in life to earn love through caretaking. Hunter expands on how cultural expectations, gender roles, and spirituality can shape or mask each of the Enneagram types, with particular emphasis on the Two. Tune in to discover how the Enneagram is not just about personality typing, but about transformation and solidarity. Welcome to a journey that helps reveal how everything — and everyone — belongs. Find the transcript for this episode here. Sign Up for The Enneagram Email Series Deepen your journey with the Enneagram. Sign up for monthly reflections, practices, and resources that connect the contemplative wisdom with your daily life: https://cac.org/belongs2026/ Take a Deeper Dive into Type Two Twos are a part of the heart triad. They are “other-directed” people, whose well-being depends on how their environment reacts to them. We all have this same concern, to some degree. It grows out of the mirroring we received or didn’t receive as a child when we were first developing our sense of identity. “Who am I in your eyes?” is a central question for Enneagram type twos. Read more on Type Two here. Additional Enneagram Resources The Enneagram: An Introduction: A brief introduction to this tool and a compilation of different resources curated for those longing to better understand and have compassion for themselves and others. Enneagram as a Tool for Your Spiritual Journey: Use the offer code POD35 to get 35% off this foundational Enneagram teaching from Fr. Richard Rohr and Episode 2 guest Russ Hudson. The Enneagram & Grace: Richard Rohr and Russ Hudson offer a deep study of the Enneagram as a practice to nurture transformation for ourselves and compassion for the world. Use POD35 to get 35% off your order. Follow us on Instagram. How can your wounds lead to wisdom? Discover topics about what your number might be trying to teach you. Join the conversation on Facebook. Share wisdom with others on the Enneagram journey. Pick up a copy of Fr. Richard's book The Enneagram: A Christian Perspective. Connect With Us Have a question you'd like to ask about this season? Email us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠podcasts@cac.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Send us a voicemail: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠cac.org/voicemail⁠⁠⁠⁠

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0:00.0	You're listening to a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation. To learn more, visit
0:05.5	cac.org.
0:08.1	Friends, welcome back to the Everything Belongs podcast with Father Richard Roar. Each season, we've
0:14.6	explored an aspect of Richard's deep teachings, usually focusing on one of his books. Each episode we travel over to
0:22.2	Richard's little house to unpack some big wisdom with him and his little dog
0:26.3	too. And then we're joined by a guest who helps us live the teachings forward to
0:31.3	explore and expand on Richard's foundational wisdom in new ways by asking new
0:36.3	questions emerging in our rapidly changing world.
0:40.5	But this season is a little bit different because this season we're going back to one of
0:46.7	Richard's early passions. We're exploring the Enneagram, a contemporary tool that draws on
0:53.9	ancient wisdom for discernment, solidarity,
0:57.5	and self-discovery. We know that a lot of you first met Richard years ago as an enneagram teacher,
1:04.6	and we now get to chat with Richard in his 83rd year, asking him about what he's continued to learn, 36 years after his book,
1:13.7	discovering the an Eneagram an ancient tool for a new spiritual journey was first published.
1:19.2	Today we talk about the terrific twos. Cassidy and I get to chat with our guest Hunter
1:23.9	Mowbly, who is an accomplished eneagram teacher, who gives his personal and expert take
1:29.3	on being a two, and who specializes in helping us understand the anagram as a contemplative
1:35.3	tool for living into our truest selves. But first, we head over to hang with Richard Opie and
1:41.6	Paul to learn about the wounds, the work, and the wisdom
1:45.3	that Enneagram 2s have to offer each and every one of us.
1:56.3	From the Center for Action and Contemplation, I'm Mike Petro.
2:00.0	I'm Paul Swanson. I'm Carmen Acevedo Butcher.
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