I want to go back to about a week. That's a fine. Hold on one sec. This is called

doing a podcast with an insider.

In a couple of moments you're going to hear an interview that Elliot and I did with Tyler

Sagin of the Dallas Stars.

Also want to pass along condolences from our entire crew here to the

family and friends of the late Pierre Lacroix at the end of our peace with

Tyler Sagan Elliot and I will share our thoughts on the former general manager of the Quebec Nordiques and the Colorado Avalanche

Elliot I can recall very specifically right before the Stanley Cup final Tampa Bay Lightning in Dallas Stars

I had a conversation with someone around Dallas and I was saying well congratulations it's been a tumultuous

season everything that happened with Montgomery to the ups and downs of the

season to the pause in the middle of March to

getting things going again you know what a nice sort of end of the season for the

Dallas Stars and he said to me I'll tell you what really remarkable, and I'm not going to give you any specifics, but we are a Hurtin bunch right now.

We are limping into this, and I got to really handed to the guys because there's a lot of players that probably shouldn't be playing hockey at this point

And as we saw on the final Elliot Tyler say Sagan was clearly one of those guys.

And you are responsible for this interview.

You're the one who set it up so tell us how it came to happen.

You know we got the press releases we all did about

Tyler Sagan who has like the interesting thing about Sagan to a lot of people is

he's not just a hockey player and he's never just been a hockey player even going

back to when he played with Jeff Skinner and the Nat's and the G. T.L.

He's always been about you know hockey is part of my life, but it is not my life completely.

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