So nice, we're having him twice.

Tyler Perry must be another big movie.

Nope.

Tyler Perry is talking about what you probably haven't heard him discuss before.

And it's not just the travails of his own trauma and his own upbringing, which would be enough.

It's about what is often ignored yet always shared, struggle, suffering.

You have it in your life.

And if you don't think you do, you're just missing it.

And it's certainly going to come.

But we don't talk about what is probably the most relatable thing among us.

Hey, I'm Chris Cuomo.

Welcome to another episode of the Chris Cuomo Project with a very heavy-duty guest

who's talking about something even more important than him and his career and his fame

and fortune.

Tyler Perry, so much good work coming out of him, so much success.

But he was anxious to take the chance to sit with me for a good, long talk about struggle

and suffering and what it is meant in his life and what it probably means in yours, and yet we don't talk about it.

And why we don't talk about it? Why do we ignore such a shared experience? Something that's so

formative, so dominant, so important. Well, there's bad reason for that, but there's also

instructive reason in that. And Tyler Perry knows both sides of the

coin, the vagaries of life and trauma and transition and change and how you get to where you want

to be by going through what you must and how to do that. Really important stuff I learned a lot. I hope you do as well.

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