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Tetragrammaton with Rick Rubin

Tyler Cowen: From Avant-Garde to Pop (Bonus DJ Episode)

Tetragrammaton with Rick Rubin

Rick Rubin

Society & Culture, Arts, Philosophy

4.6908 Ratings

🗓️ 18 October 2023

⏱️ 112 minutes

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Summary

Tyler Cowen has long nurtured an obsession with music. It’s one of the few addictions Tyler believes is actually conducive to a fulfilling intellectual life. In this bonus episode, an addendum to Rick’s conversation with Tyler, Rick sits with Tyler as he plays and talks through the music that moves him: from the outer bounds of the avant-garde to contemporary pop music and all points in between.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Tetrogrammaton

0:02.0

Tetragrammaton One of your passions is music, enough so that you've organized your life to travel the world to listen to it. Is that correct?

0:33.6

Music has dominated my life. I listen to it every day. I try to consume it as voraciously as possible

0:40.3

and just learn what's new out and just keep on taking it in. And at age 61 years, I've been doing this since I was seven.

0:48.3

Would you say your enthusiasm for music has diminished over the course of your life.

0:54.9

Oh, I think it's intensified.

0:56.4

The more music you know, the more music you become curious about, right?

1:01.1

And the more people you know who can recommend more good things to you.

1:05.0

So it's an all-consuming addiction.

1:06.6

I don't think I have to tell you that, yes?

1:09.1

Yes, I'm addicted.

1:11.3

And unlike most addictions, I think it's actually good for you.

1:15.5

So you can learn history.

1:16.6

You also can learn economics.

1:18.4

You learn about the world.

1:20.1

I've been to over 100 countries, often in quest of different musics.

1:24.1

And I love also reading books about music, composers, classic rock, and so on.

1:28.3

Great. What are you going to play for us today?

1:31.3

I thought we would start with something very classic. We'll get to some more popular music.

1:35.3

But for me, the most universal of all composers is Beethoven.

1:39.3

It's a lot of very famous Beethoven pieces.

1:42.3

So I thought I would pick one that hardly anyone listens to,

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