It's Thursday already. You might be thinking, where did the time go?

Where did my podcast go? I need more podcasts. Why is there only one weekly planet podcast every week?

Yeah. Because we're old and tired, that's why. That's right. But have no fear. There's another podcast

that shouldn't run up your butthole. That's right. It's called just make the thing. And you might

be thinking, but James, isn't that the podcast that your wife does with her French Chanel?

Yes. So basically, it's the idea is that Chanel Orclay interview somebody who does a wonderful

creative project. It might be a comedian or some person in the arts or somebody who's built

built a business or a passion of theirs. And then other weeks, they also just kind of chat about

a particular topic. It might be getting out of creative rut or how to get something off the ground,

how to maneuver the world of business. How to just get through your working day.

Exactly. That's the stuff that makes up life. I know I would have liked this before I started

doing this podcast because when I was a nine to five man, and when I was before that, I did my business

degree. I feel like I needed something like this to kind of push me towards doing something that I

didn't hate. And look at me now, Mason, in, in throwing a podcast that my wife made, that's the dream.

This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planet broadcasting.com for more

podcasts from our great mates. So just pick it. Hello. Hello. Thank you for coming on just make

the thing. Thank you so much for having me. I'm very excited. Oh goodness. Okay, no pressure.

Yeah. It's going to be good. I never appear on anyone else's podcast. So no. This is a huge honor for you.

This is amazing. I know. I would be like preparing the house like the queen is coming.

We have a just like thrown hole. It'll push it on the floor for our soundproofing and our dog has

an attack to you. Yeah, it's fun. It's totally fun. It's amazing. The service. Yeah.

And if you can use something in the background that you support us dog trying to get into

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