Hey, it's NPR's Book of the Day. I'm Andrew Limbaugh. Cooking content is one of those things

almost everyone can agree on. If my folks are visiting and we just want to watch TV or something,

we'll put on a cooking show. My YouTube algorithm and my wives are pretty much worlds apart

except for the cooking channels we like. You get the point.

Today on the pod, we've got two cooking stars out with cookbooks. In a bit, we'll hear from

Food Network star Cartier Brown talking about her Gala Gichi roots. But first, I've learned not to

ask my mom for measurements when she's teaching me a dish. I'll be like, ma, how much of whatever

should I add? And she'll be like, some. I'll be like, Ma, how much of whatever should I add?

And she'll be like, some or a little. Like, bro, how much is a little? But she comes from the

school of thought that you season based off vibes. And she's not alone. Ticktop cooking star Tabit

the Brown has a cookbook called Cooking from the Spirit that has no

hard measurements because she says in this interview with NPR's Michelle Martin that she

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Tabitha Brown spent years trying to make it as an actress grabbing small parts here and there

before she started making cooking videos online.

She didn't expect much to come of it. She was really just looking for a way to have fun and share

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