meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
Deadline: White House

"Two ways: Gradually, then suddenly"

Deadline: White House

Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW

Washington Dc, Msnbc, Politics, News, Government, Versant, Ms Now, Daily News, The White House, Nicolle Wallace

4.56.4K Ratings

🗓️ 27 March 2026

⏱️ 41 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

Alicia Menendez, in for Nicolle Wallace, on the American people bearing witness to what could be a monumental break up of what was until very recently a seemingly unshakeable political coalition — the MAGA movement.

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

This is too crazy, man.

0:05.5

And especially when it's the administration that really ran on and promised that we want to get out of this, out of this game of fighting stupid wars in the Middle East.

0:18.3

Yeah, that was what we were all supporting.

0:20.2

Yeah.

0:20.4

That was the one thing that he was saying that was so promising to so many people that were independent, that were on the fence. Like, this guy wants no wars. All right. He wants closing the border, which I think is a great idea. He wants no wars. That enough. Let's go. Hi, and everybody. It's five o'clock here in New York. I'm Alicia Menendez in today for Nicole Wallace.

0:39.8

When students of history, generations down the line, wonder aloud, how exactly did the

0:45.2

formidable MAGA movement diminish?

0:47.7

The answer, to borrow a Hemingway line, might be, quote, two ways, gradually, and suddenly.

0:54.0

Because right now, the American people are bearing

0:55.9

witness to what could be a monumental breakup, a very public one, of what was until very recently

1:01.8

a seemingly unshakable political coalition. Again, it has been gradual. That wasn't the first

1:08.5

time Joe Rogan criticized Donald Trump for what's become a

1:12.0

rank betrayal of core campaign principles. But especially in the last week or so, Rogan and other

1:17.4

conservative media figures, likewise responsible non-zero contributions to Trump's victory in

1:22.7

2024 appear to be maybe turning the page.

1:31.8

And it reflects a broader reality inside the Republican Party that many of Trump's voters just don't like what they see on Epstein, on the economy, and particularly on Iran.

1:38.4

The Washington Post's latest reporting from inside the halls of the annual CPAC conference adds

1:42.7

context, quote, Trump, and his handling of the war remained popular among most voters who identify as MAGA supporters poll show.

1:50.7

At the same time, some prominent conservatives who have long been seen as speaking for the Trump base have voiced fierce opposition to the war.

1:59.1

That includes well-known MAGA commentators, including Tucker

2:02.2

Carlson, Megan Kelly, and Marjorie Taylor Green, and also popular podcasters like Joe Rogan and

2:07.7

Theo Vaughn, who have been credited with helping Trump win younger, less politically active voters.

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.