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Glad you join me today.

Greg Kokel here, and the show is Stand to Reason.

And I was just thinking with my team earlier today, but I think about this with some

frequency.

The thing that has had the biggest influence on me as a Christian about Christianity, and different

things resonate with different people, I guess, depending on their personalities.

But I was not someone who became a Christian as a result of apologetics, which is unusual, considering the people I hang with, many of them, you know, because you listen to their podcasts or read their books, because they became Christians by being convinced about the evidence.

So I think the evidence is good.

Obviously, that's why I'm an apologist making the case.

But it wasn't Christian evidences that brought me to Christ. It certainly secured

me in the Lord. That is, after I became a Christian, my confidence in Christianity was deeply

impacted, first off by Francis Schaefer, actually, and I was a member of a Christian community

that, what, about four months after I became a Christian, and I was there for two and a half years, and in Westwood Village there, and we got some great teaching and stuff. And I remember reading Francis Schaefer, the trilogy, what they call the trilogy now, the God who is there, he is there, and he is not silent and escape from reason.

And it had all these philosophical notions in there that I'd never countenance before,

the epistemological necessity for God's existence, the moral necessity for God's, et cetera, et cetera.

And I had fun reading it because it was all kind of new territory for me.

But I remember thinking, as I read this stuff, I'm sitting there at my desk, looking out

the window, reading, and then pausing and reflecting on what I'm learning from Francis Schaefer.

And I remember saying to myself, man, this stuff is really true.

Now, obviously, I had committed my life to Christ and was following Christ.

I wasn't a subjectivist when it came to these kinds of things.

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