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Talking Real Money - Investing Talk

Two-Thirds are Wrong

Talking Real Money - Investing Talk

Don McDonald

Business, Education, Investing, How To

4.2680 Ratings

🗓️ 13 May 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Don and Tom take aim at America's favorite financial myths—starting with the widespread belief that real estate and gold are the best long-term investments. They present nearly 100 years of historical data to show why stocks have far outpaced both. The conversation also tackles misleading annuity pitches, a classic pension lump sum dilemma, and the age-old question facing 20-somethings: save for a house or retirement? Callers bring smart questions about guaranteed annuities, where to park surplus cash, and the VT vs. VTI+VXUS tax argument. As always, the show delivers investing wisdom with skeptical charm and a few zingers. 0:10 — A third of Americans believe real estate or gold are the best long-term investments1:40 — The real historical winners: stocks beat gold and real estate by miles3:03 — Nearly 100 years of returns: real estate (4.2%), gold (5%), stocks (9.9%)6:00 — Don’s missed heart procedure and Tom’s recycled joke vault7:49 — Don’s NYC hotel sticker shock vs. Tom’s five-star absence excuse9:02 — Caller Jim asks about multi-year guaranteed annuities as bond alternatives10:01 — Why MYGAs aren’t remotely comparable to U.S. Treasuries13:07 — If something looks too good (5.8% guaranteed), it probably isn't14:25 — Another Jim (Florida) asks: lump sum or $250/month pension?17:30 — Financial flexibility vs. longevity risk in pension decisions21:32 — Listener dilemma: save for retirement or a house at 24?23:57 — Why early Roth contributions beat early homeownership for long-term wealth25:41 — Kyle in Indianapolis has an extra $40K—where should it go?27:26 — If it’s 5 years, don’t risk stocks. If it’s 10+, maybe30:47 — Allie from Wyoming asks: VT vs. VTI+VXUS for better foreign tax credits32:25 — Why foreign tax credit isn’t a good enough reason to skip VT34:21 — Global GDP, stock valuations, and the eternal U.S. vs. international allocation debate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Reality Radio for a really great future.

0:08.0

We're talking real money.

0:10.9

You know, you got to think for a minute.

0:13.4

Like if a third of the population in the country is of above average intelligence,

0:19.2

and a third is about average intelligence that generally

0:22.9

you're going to have about a third who are sporting below average intelligence.

0:28.4

Now, I'm not saying you're one of them because you listen to the show.

0:30.7

You're probably not, but I bet you know some people who you think, gee, they may fall in that

0:35.2

third.

0:35.6

And, well, there are a third of you who believe something that is absolutely totally wrong.

0:42.0

Hi there.

0:42.7

Welcome to talking real money.

0:44.5

I'm Don.

0:45.6

That's Tom on the screen from his house.

0:49.8

And the quality is just terrible.

0:52.9

Yeah, they're still working on getting the Internet out here.

0:55.2

It is so weird.

0:56.3

They're talking 2030 or 2035.

0:58.2

You know, the string works surprisingly well for audio, but not very well for video.

1:04.2

It's just the end of the road.

1:05.6

I mean, that literally is the end of the road.

1:08.0

There's no going from here.

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