Two Separate Realities: A Conversation with former Evangelical Christian fundamentalist, Tim Whitaker
The PoliticsGirl Podcast
MeidasTouch Network, Leigh McGowan
4.9 • 4.5K Ratings
🗓️ 23 September 2025
⏱️ 52 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Make no mistake, women's suffrage is on the table. It is on the, you think people tell me, |
| 0:04.1 | well, it's in the Constitution and will ever get overturned. Oh, they're crafty. You think they |
| 0:07.5 | aren't like working on it? I need people to wake up. Like, this is on the table, friends. |
| 0:12.8 | It's 100% on the table. I mean, listen, we are getting rid of the First Amendment right now. |
| 0:17.1 | There's no way they're not going to get rid of the 19th. |
| 0:33.7 | Hello, and welcome to the Politics Girl podcast. I'm your host Lee McGowan. Let's get into it. |
| 0:38.9 | I hope everyone is doing okay in these terrible times. Considering the past couple of weeks, I have decided to rearrange our schedule here to talk to my friend Tim Whitaker. Tim is a former |
| 0:43.9 | Christian fundamentalist, baptized and raised in the heart of the group trying so hard to take over |
| 0:48.8 | our country right now. He is also the founder of the new evangelicals, an inclusive Jesus-centered community that holds space for those marginalized by the evangelical church through building community, exploring faith, and advocating for systemic change. |
| 1:02.8 | I wanted to have him on today to talk about how the Christian nationalist playbook is unfolding in front of our eyes. |
| 1:09.1 | From mass immigration raids to what's going on in our schools |
| 1:11.8 | and our media, to how the right is co-opting the horrific murder of Charlie Kirk to consolidate |
| 1:16.8 | power. It is all straight out of a playbook that I think most of us don't understand, but Tim really does. |
| 1:23.2 | So without further ado, please welcome my guest, educator, influencer, and former evangelical Christian still deconstructing his faith. Tim Whitaker. Welcome back, Tim. It's good to see you, my friend. I mean, we talked a year ago, and a lot has changed in a year. So thanks for having me. Why are we laughing? We should be crying. Because it's terrible. If we don't laugh, we will cry. |
| 1:44.6 | And like, listen, here's the thing. |
| 1:45.8 | I think we need your insight right now more than ever. |
| 1:47.8 | And like you said, last time you were here, we talked about this, right? |
| 1:51.1 | You tried to warn us that this extremist faction of the Christian movement was a real threat to America. |
| 1:57.1 | That you knew these people firsthand. |
| 1:59.4 | They were a danger to women. |
| 2:00.5 | They were endangeredjuder to women. They were a danger to minorities. |
| 2:01.6 | They were a danger to the marginalized. They were a danger to democracy itself. We talked about |
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