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Scramfai Podcast, Assemble, Emergency Podcast, Dropping.

Yes, what a day it's been in Welsh Rugby. We were all caught completely, completely unaware.

And Laura, it's a significant moment for me in the history of the game especially when it comes to the

last 20 years. Yeah we haven't done an emergency podcast for a while,

lovely, but I think this merits it and the wood shock is in most headlines when talking about

the retirement of Allewin Jones and Justin Tipperic, two legends of the gaming

Wales, two good, two have announced their retirement on the same day and did get me thinking,

you know, if you had to do a list of players who wouldn't want any fuss it would be Allowing

Johnson just in Tippbrick and the fact they've announced it a few hours

before a European final before weekend of European finals makes me think perhaps it was their way of toning it down but

we're doing a podcast on a Friday night 20 to 9 because they've given the game so much.

So yeah we'll get on to I guess the timing slightly bizarre

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