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Hey guys, it's Jackie Goldschneider and Jen Fessler.

And we are two Jersey Jays.

And today we're talking housewives.

Yeah, I mean, Jack, we've talked about talking about housewives for a while.

And I know we've always like to kind of tried to avoid it a little just in the sense that like there are so many housewife podcasts. Right? Yeah. We haven't really given it. We're not recapping. We're talking like definitely not recapping. You're right. That's true. No, but I let me ask you a question. No, I'm just saying it's nice. I'm affect you or do you feel sick to your stomach?

When you, you're asking me how I feel now, it's very different than how I felt right when the

show went off the air and things would come up. Then I actually, I took them seriously. But now,

much less so. I mean, it's, it's, because it's just so constant, you know, it's like all of these

speculations that I, and I, I just don't know, I don't, I don't really buy into it anymore.

Do you?

No, I mean, I do make a call to somebody who knows more than me and say, hey, is there any truth to this?

And I do feel better when I know that there's...

What do you call, Jack?

I call Anthony.

Oh.

Yeah.

I feel like Anthony knows enough people and he knows enough about everything.

Anthony is somebody that Jen and I are both very close with who knows.

It's like a wizard.

He knows everything.

Yeah.

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