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Stacey Vanik Smith, it's so nice to see you on a Zoom call again.

Greg Rzalski, it's always nice to see you too.

And a few weeks ago on a call not unlike this one, you and I started debating the future

of work.

Namely, if workers would be going back to the office in the future or if the way that

we work has permanently changed.

And we had pretty different opinions.

Yeah, as much as I love remote work and I want to stay a remote worker, I kind of believe

that for most industries, the office is here to stay.

And then we started talking about this and thought maybe this is kind of like an interesting

debate for the show.

It's true.

And it wasn't just our strong differing opinions either.

There is a lot of data and such strong opinions on both sides.

So Greg, you took the side that is in line with what you think is going to happen, which

is that the office is here to stay that we're all going to go back to the office.

And I took the side that I happen to believe, which is that things have permanently changed,

that we're probably not ever going to go back to work the way we used to.

But apparently, Greg, this is not a new debate.

Right.

So I actually found this amazing old article.

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