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Flying Free

Two Hotel Rooms: One Rescue Mission [344]

Flying Free

Natalie Hoffman

Emotional, Narcissism, Christianity, Abuse, Religion & Spirituality, Spiritual, Christian, Self-improvement, Education, Divorce, Marriage

51K Ratings

🗓️ 9 September 2025

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Summary

You know how sometimes life gives you lemons and then instead of sugar for lemonade, the church hands you a moldy marriage book and says, “Submit harder”? That was my reality. In this episode, I take you back to a hotel room where I was nine months pregnant and seriously questioning if I wanted to keep living. 

Instead, I stumbled my way out of despair and into freedom thanks to a stack of books, a laptop, and eventually, the real God (not the mean knock-off version I had been worshiping).

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

  • The two hotel rooms that changed everything: one where I nearly gave up, and one where I finally woke up.
  • How books became my lifelines (thank you, Google rabbit holes).
  • The moment I realized the “god” I was serving looked suspiciously like my abusive husband. 
  • Why leaving my marriage also meant leaving behind a toxic image of God.
  • What it really means to be a butterfly (It’s not about fluttering around in a meadow. It’s about fierce, unapologetic freedom).

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0:00.0

Hi, this is Natalie Hoffman of Flying Free Now.com, and you're listening to the Flying Free Podcast,

0:08.9

a support resource for women of faith looking for hope and healing from hidden emotional and spiritual abuse.

0:18.0

Welcome to episode 344 of the Flying Free Podcast.

0:23.3

Today I'm going to tell you a story.

0:26.9

The room was quiet, but not peaceful.

0:31.2

Just that thick, suffocating kind of quiet that feels like a held breath you can't exhale. The hotel bed spread was stiff

0:41.6

and overbleached. The lamp in the corner of the room flickered once in a while like it couldn't

0:47.9

decide whether to help me or give up. I was nine months pregnant with my ninth child. But I felt hollow, like a ghost,

0:59.8

carrying a ghost. I hadn't come to that hotel for a retreat. I came because I wasn't sure I wanted

1:07.5

to stay alive. After years of begging for help, pastors, counselors, friends,

1:14.4

anyone who might see what was happening in my marriage, I had been handed shame instead of

1:20.6

support. Submit harder. Don't air your husband's dirty laundry. That's not abuse. That's just normal marriage.

1:29.8

Every time I reached out, I was handed another book, another rebuke, another reminder that this

1:36.3

was somehow my fault, that I wasn't trying hard enough, that I was the problem.

1:50.2

I had followed every rule. I had sacrificed. I had obeyed,

1:59.5

and I was dying inside. That night in the hotel, I didn't feel brave or spiritual. I felt like I was losing myself one breath at a time. But the next morning,

2:04.6

I made a decision. I drove to a bookstore, no plan, no shower, just desperation. I got out my

2:12.9

laptop and I started Googling things like passive aggressive man, painful Christian marriage,

2:19.9

my Christian husband never says he's sorry, and when you've tried everything and your Christian

2:25.5

marriage is still falling apart. I didn't really find anything that morning that I could grab a hold of,

2:32.6

but it did start me down some rabbit

2:35.4

holes that eventually led me to a book called Who's Pushing Your Buttons? By Dr. Henry

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