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The Takeaway

Two Generals Fight Over Power In Sudan

The Takeaway

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🗓️ 3 May 2023

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

Last month violence took over Sudan's capital, Khartoum… it has now spread through the entire country and thousands of civilians have fled from the chaos seeking refuge in Chad, Egypt, and other neighboring countries. Despite a second 72-hour ceasefire, violence has continued. Nations, including the US, have evacuated diplomats and citizens from the country. The violence stems from a long rivalry between two generals. The fighting between the two rivals has resulted in attacks on healthcare facilities and the destruction of the Airport… Civilians trapped in the capital are facing shortages of medicine, fuel, and food and are unable to leave their homes without the threat of being killed.  To get a closer look at what is happening in Sudan, on Tuesday Morning we talked with  Lynsey Chutel, New York Times reporter from the Johannesburg bureau.

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It's the takeaway. I'm Melissa Harris-Perry.

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Last month, violence took over Sudan's capital of Khartoum. It's now spread throughout the entire country,

0:36.6

and thousands of civilians have fled

0:39.6

from the chaos seeking refuge. They fled to nations like Chad, Egypt, and other neighboring

0:46.5

countries. Now, despite a second 72-hour ceasefire, violence has continued, and nations, including

0:53.8

the U.S., have evacuated their diplomats and

0:56.6

citizens out of Sudan. Now, violence here is stemming from the long rivalry between two generals.

1:04.4

And the fighting between the two rivals has resulted in attacks on health care facilities

1:08.2

and the destruction of the airport.

1:16.2

Civilians trapped in the capital are facing shortages of medicine, fuel, and food,

1:20.4

and are unable to leave their homes without fear of being killed.

1:26.7

To get a closer look at what's happening in Sudan, we spoke on Tuesday morning with Lindsay Chetel,

1:29.6

New York Times reporter from the Johannesburg Bureau.

1:31.1

Lindsay, welcome to the takeaway.

1:33.2

Thank you for having me.

1:38.0

All right, can you talk with me about who these two generals are?

1:48.7

To the two men at the center of this conflict, General Abdul Fata al-Burhan and Mohamed Hamid Hamdi. General Al-Burhan has been a member of the Sudanese armed forces. He's a four-star general. He's led a grinding counter-insurgency

1:56.0

campaigns in several parts of the country. And he was also the man that helped crush the Darfur

2:00.2

uprising in the early 2000s. Hametti's career, as we know it today, also stems from that uprising.

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